Hey Everyone! I have only been on Phen for 1 week and three days, and the first 3 days I lost around 3 or 4 pounds.... then nothing for 3 or four days, I thought it just wasn't going to work for me because I knew the first few pounds were water weight! Then I did some researching on a supplement that would boost the weight loss. I went to Walmart and bought Tonalin CLA 1000mg and Green tea extract. I began taking them three days ago 2 of each with a meal twice a day... Since the second day of using these supplements along with the phen, I've lost an additional 8 pounds!!!! (in just a couple days) My husband is also doing the exact thing, he has lost 13 pounds! Unbelievable!! We have found ourselves eating a lot less, he's not eating as healthy as I am, but it's still coming off of him! We don't do any organized excercising, we have children, and when not working, our time is occupied by playing/chasing after them!
Sorry to go on like this, but I thought I would share mine and my husband success with this combo of supps! I wish everyone on here the best luck in the world, and if your stuck... give this a try, it may work for you too!!
I need to update my weight and stuff, but here is the updated version!
CW-141 9-2-06 (WOW! 1 week,3days!)
GW-120-125 (Aiming for Sept 30th!)
September 2nd, 2006, 10:34 AM
I'm a firm believer in herbal medicines. I'll be off to Wal-Mart tonight to find me a bottle of this! Thank you for bringing this to our attention.
By the by, yesterday a lady at our local grocer was giving out samples of the Green Tea drink and I tried some for the first time and that stuff is AWESOME! It tastes like a fruit drink and has zero fat grams.
September 2nd, 2006, 11:59 AM
I bought some of the CLA today and OMG something that smells that bad HAS to be good for you lol. I am going to try it tomorrow with the 37.5mg of Phen that I am currently taking. Which is the best way to take the phen and the CLA as I have bever done it before?
September 2nd, 2006, 12:18 PM
When you get your CLA, be sure to eat something with it... or you will feel pretty sick. I've done tons of research on this stuff, and it seems you really can't go wrong with it.
Something else I've been doing is I do the Special K diet thing... you know on the commercial it says you'll lose 10 lbs. in two weeks? Well 2 bowls a/day with skim milk, and a sensible dinner. You don't really get hungry, and it's good too. Also I drink lots and lots of water, not only because you should, but because I have really dry mouth with the phen, anyways I hope I've helped you all. I have been looking for some pointers on here for a while, but since I don't have much time to work out, I couldn't find much help. So I started looking elsewhere for info, and found it! Good luck girls!
September 2nd, 2006, 03:48 PM
I couldn't find the tonalin at my Wal-Mart. :(
September 2nd, 2006, 04:10 PM
September 2nd, 2006, 04:25 PM
I know GNC has it, or you can get it online. I almost didn't find it at my walmart also. They had it stuck on the very bottom shelf, in the back. I asked someone, and they found it for me... Rite aid or some other drug store may have it also. I got mine for like $12 or $13. Online, it seems a bit more expensive though. I hope you guys can find it and it works for you! Have a great weekend y'all!
September 7th, 2006, 04:20 AM
well i went back to walmart yesterday and guess what? they had the tonalin all along...i was looking in the diet section, and this was where i found the plain ole CLA tabs for almost $20...BUT the tonalin was actually located on the next aisle over..in the vitamin section...LOL...$12.88 and they were out...
September 7th, 2006, 05:19 AM
Glandenpi - Wow :eek: The weight is really falling off of you without even exercising!! Thanks for the Tip. I take CLA and phen but not Green Tea. The weight is barely coming off right now. Do you take green tea pills or do you drink it?
September 7th, 2006, 06:02 AM
I WAS WONDERING THE SAME THING ABOUT THE GREEN TEA...IS IT A PILL? OR DRINK? WHAT BRAND? HOW OFTEN?
September 7th, 2006, 06:41 AM
I do take the green tea pills. I got them from Walmart also, in the vitamin & supplement section. I'm not sure what brand, but I take 2 twice a day. I just take them the same time I take the CLA.
Keep me posted on how they are working for you guys!
September 7th, 2006, 05:31 PM
I started taking CLA on Sunday after reading about it in this forum. I take it right after a meal. I also take vitamins which include fax seed oil. My question is..... Is it OK to take the CLA at the same time I take my morning vitamins (as long as it is after a meal). Does the CLA burn the fat in the calories that you consume that day or does it burn the belly fat that is stored? Im afraid it will weaken or void out my vitamins if I take them together. I also take another 2 cla sometime later in the day and also 2 more fax seed oil. I feel like Im taking pills all day long and would like to group them together as much as possible. I usually take my Phen by itself first thing in the am with 2 glasses of water and wait 30 min to eat. In addition to the Phen, CLA, fax seed oil, i take multi vitamin for women, calcuim and stool softener. Does this sound OK? I normally drink at least 64 oz of water but I also drink 1 or 2 diet soft drinks also. Coffee in the morning too. Does this sound like a good regiment??? Need advise.
September 7th, 2006, 05:56 PM
According to the clinical trials on CLA that I've read, it burns fat that already exists. I also take my vitamins with the CLA, and the phen first thing in the am. IMO you are doing everything right! Do you take the stool softner every day? I would die!! LOL!! Anyway everything sounds good in my opion!
September 7th, 2006, 06:07 PM
No, I only take the stool softeners (2) every other day. They are very mild. Thanks for the info. I am really looking forward to seeing what the CLA can do in a month from now.
September 7th, 2006, 06:30 PM
No problem and good luck!
September 8th, 2006, 04:19 AM
I read a couple of other posts about this, and yours now, so I went and ordered both.
Anyone else having success with combo?
I'll let ya'll know how it works for me.
September 8th, 2006, 05:06 AM
Good luck Mia! Keep us posted!
September 9th, 2006, 08:14 AM
I bought the CLA 1000mg $12.88 today from Walmart also I bought the Green Tea Extract 150mg $2.98 both in vitamin section .
thanks for the tip Glandenpi :} will give it a shot keep you all informed :}
September 9th, 2006, 11:44 AM
No problem Sherry! Good luck to you with your weight loss goals! Keep us informed!!
September 11th, 2006, 05:53 PM
Started the green tea on Saturday and Sunday and it worked pretty good. (Didnt use the phen though.... )Today I started on phen w/ the green tea and it worked really well. Not hungry at all. Had a very low calorie intake. I drank alot of water because I was very thirsty.I did get a little headache though. After I ate supper I was OK. I am going to keep using them together.
September 12th, 2006, 02:51 AM
Good for you joggrri! I need to update my ticker, but I have lost an additional 4 pounds since last weigh in! I'm at 137 now! WOW in the 130's again! I can tell a lot in my stomach, I feel like the CLA is doing its job! Just thought I'd update everyone! Good Luck to you all!
September 12th, 2006, 02:56 AM
wow that is great news, can't wait for mine to get here...
I ordered CLA and Green tea pills last week.
I still had some Hydroxycut in my cabinet, so I decided to try them with Phen until my CLA and Green tea got here. I lost another pound in 2 days since I started them - 1 at 9am and 1 at 2pm.
I am guessing any type of "fat burner" or "metabolizer" helps in the process also. Mine will be here Friday, so I will see if I can tell a difference in the Hydroxycut and the CLA/Green tea mix.
September 12th, 2006, 06:44 AM
Glandenpi - I'm totally amazed!!! :eek: Congratulations on losing another 4 lbs and getting into the 130's. I've been stuck in the 130's forever. How many mg of phen are you taking?
I haven't bought the green tea pills because I thought green tea is just caffiene and I read on here that it's not good to have caffiene with phen because it makes your body process and excrete the phen faster. But seeing your great results, I'm going to have to get me some!
September 12th, 2006, 11:49 AM
I went to CVS and got decaffienated green tea pills. We'll see if these help.
September 13th, 2006, 05:28 AM
Mia, Good Luck! You're doing great!!
Blue, Thanks! It seems to be doing good for me! You've also done great! I hope it works for you. You're almost at your GW! CONGRATS!
September 14th, 2006, 04:21 AM
After reading about CLA and how good it seems to work for some of you, I am dying to try it. Just wondering though----I want to make sure it is safe to take it together with the Phen. That wouldn't be like a diet pill overload would it? I know the phen speeds up your heart rate, etc., and just wondering of CLA combined with it would be safe enough. I've tried to find information on the web, but couldn't really find this specific information. Any information you have on taking the 2 together would be helpful. I usually only take half of a 37.5 mg phen every other day, but right now I'm taking them every day because I've hit a plateau and need a jumpstart. THANKS! Cary :D
September 14th, 2006, 04:26 AM
I take green tea herbal tablets and drink about 4/5 cups of it a day - I really like the taste. When I tried losing weight it really helped with shedding the pounds. Now gonna try phentermine as well!
September 14th, 2006, 07:05 AM
Blu- the phen is a appetite suppressant, and the CLA is a fat burner. Many 'diet pills' have the two properties combined. I haven't read anywhere that you can not take them together. I've been on them for a few weeks and have only had positive effects. I'm no doctor though, this is just what I've been doing, and a lot of other members here are also taking them together. I wish you luck!
Blueberry- Sorry I missed the question about my mg of phen. I'm taking 37.5mg
September 14th, 2006, 07:19 AM
I'm heading to Wal Mart today to see if I can find the Tonalin and get started. Also wondering if it's worth taking the green tea pills as stated above if anyone has any info on that and exactly what it's for.
THANKS! Cary :)
September 14th, 2006, 07:43 AM
Blugreen - CLA is only safflower oil. So it doesn't react with phen.
Venessa - Ok, thanks for letting me know. I am taking 15 mg once a day.
September 14th, 2006, 07:53 AM
Blu- The Green Tea pills are antioxidants. I began taking the CLA and Green Tea pills at the same time, so I'm not sure which attributes to my weight loss the most. Though taking the Green tea pills will not harm you at all, they are actually really good for you. I just read on a forum that the combo boosts your weight loss, so I tried them.
September 14th, 2006, 07:55 AM
Note: Sorry, this is a very long post, but this is worth reading.
After reading here about CLA and doing some research, I found a very interesting article on thyroid dot about dot com:
Conjugated Linoleic Acid (CLA) Supplements for Weight Loss
With all the excitement over Conjugated Linoleic Acid (CLA) and it's proven success in helping reduce body fat and balance blood sugar, I've received hundreds of questions from readers interested in finding out more about CLA.
CLA is a naturally occurring fatty acid found in animal and dairy fats such as beef, dairy products, poultry, eggs and corn oil. The human intestine produces CLA naturally from linoleic acid. Recent studies have been conducted on attaining a higher CLA content in daily food intake because of possible health benefits
A double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled study, published in the December 2000 issue of the Journal of Nutrition found that CLA reduces fat and preserves muscle tissue.
According to the research project manager, an average reduction of six pounds of body fat was found in the group that took CLA, compared to a placebo group.
The study found that approximately 3.4 grams of CLA per day is the level needed to obtain the beneficial effects of CLA on body fat.
"It doesn't make a big fat cell get little. What it rather does is keep a little fat cell from getting big."
Is Any Brand of CLA Good to Use?
The simple answer is, no. Different brands have differing amounts of active CLA. The research studies that established the effectiveness of CLA were using a patented form of CLA known as Tonalin's patented formula for CLA can be found in a number of brands of CLA, including brands such as Natrol, Jarrow Formulas, and Nature's Way, among others.
Is CLA Safe to Take With My Thyroid Medications?
There's no evidence that CLA, a food supplement, interacts with thyroid medications, or poses any special dangers to thyroid patients. But you should always discuss any supplements you intend to take with your own physician or practitioner before starting.
Is CLA Only for People with Thyroid Problems?
Absolutely not. The studies have shown that it's effective in general for reducing/converting fat. YOu don't have to have a thyroid problem -- you just have to be overweight -- to benefit from CLA.
How Much Should I Take?
The study found that 3.4 grams of CLA was needed in order to get the benefits. That's 3,400 mg. Since the various formulas contain a percentage of other oils as ingredients, it's wise to probably calculate how much each pill is delivering to make sure you're getting the full 3.4 grams a day.
For example, if your capsule contains 75% CLA, and it's 1000 mg, then you're getting 750 mg of CLA, and would need 5 per day to get to the 3.4 grams level.
Does CLA Have Soy in It? Should I Take It If It Says It Contains Soy?
Tonalin CLA in the 1000 mg size does not contain any soy or soybean oil. The confusion is because an older version of Natrol's Tonalin CLA did contain soybean oil, but that product has been discontinued. The Drugstorecom website, however, is still carrying the inaccurate information that Natrol Tonalin CLA contains soybean oil.
Tonalin's formula contains CLA from safflower oil, and NO soybean oil or soy. Please be advised that some off-brands of CLA may contain soybean oil, or soy products, as fillers, and you would NOT want to take these products.
Where Can I Get CLA?
GNC stores have some products with CLA, and Whole Foods Markets are also reported to have the products. The Tonalin site lists a variety of stores that sell products containing Tonalin CLA.
Online, you can get Natrol's Tonalin CLA -- the brand I personally take -- as well as many other brands, at popular retailers like Drugstorecom and Iherbcom.
How Should I Take It?
The various recommendations differ here. Some recommendations suggest to take it before eating. Others suggest to take it with meals.
The Natrol web page for their Tonalin CLA product says to take it preferably with lowfat or nonfat milk for maximum protein absorption. Personally, I'm taking it right before I eat with some 2% milk.
Does CLA Have Any Side Effects?
Some people report feeling slightly green or nauseous after taking their CLA, or isolated cases of gastrointestinal upset or loose stools.
These side effects typically are reduced when the product is taken with protein (i.e.,with milk), and usually decrease after about 2 weeks taking the supplement.
Where Can I Read More About CLA's Health Benefits?
For more information about CLA, see:
Conjugated Linoleic Acid (CLA) Supplements May Speed Weight Loss
Life Extension Foundation CLA Information
Are You Taking CLA, and If So, Is It Working For You?
I periodically take the Natrol Tonalin CLA.
Usually, in the first three weeks, my abdominal fat "pooch" shrinks. Other "fattier" areas (such as cheeks, upper arms, rear end) seemed to be slowly reducing as well.
I also notice that my appetite is somewhat reduced. I had two or three days my first week when I felt a bit green after taking my CLA, but I began to take it with a bit of milk, which eliminated that problem. Other than that, I had no other gastrointestinal problems with it. I go on and off the CLA, based on my use of other fatty acids.
CLA has been the subject of a variety of research in the past several years, and findings also suggest that some of the other benefits of CLA include the following:
1...Increases metabolic rate -- This would obviously be a positive benefit for thyroid patients, as hypothyroidism -- even when treated -- can reduce the metabolic rate in some people.
2...Decreases abdominal fat -- Adrenal imbalances and hormonal shifts that are common in thyroid patients frequently cause rapid accumulation of abdominal fat, so this benefit could be quite helpful.
3...Enhances muscle growth -- Muscle burns fat, which also contributes to increased metabolism, which is useful in weight loss and management.
4...Lowers cholesterol and triglycerides -- Since many thyroid patients have elevated cholesterol and triglyceride levels, even with treatment, this benefit can have an impact on a thyroid patient's health.
5...Lowers insulin resistance -- Insulin resistance is a risk for some hypothyroid patients, and lowering it can also help prevent adult-onset diabetes and make it easier to control weight.
6...Reduces food-induced allergic reactions -- Since food allergies can be at play when weight loss becomes difficult, this can be of help to thyroid patients.
7...Enhances immune system -- Since most cases of thyroid disease are autoimmune in nature, enhancing the immune system's ability to function properly is a positive benefit.
If You Are Interested in Taking CLA
CLA is a supplement, and does not require a prescription. It is available at health food stores, and at online outlets like Drugstoredotcom.
Experts recommend that you use a patented name brand, as some brands have inconsistent or insufficient amounts of CLA contained in them. The brand used in testing was "Tonalin" brand CLA, which comes in 1000 mg capsules.
To obtain the level determined to be effective in the testing -- 3.4 g, or 3400 mg, per day -- you would need to take 4 of these capsules a day, with meals.
Please note also, that you should not think that CLA alone will help you lose weight. You still need to be, as I am, on a balanced, reduced-calorie, low-glycemic diet, and have to incorporate regular, vigorous exercise, and weight bearing activities, into your life.
September 14th, 2006, 10:22 AM
Thanks for the info! I went and picked up the CLA today and I'm going to try it out. i was looking for decaffeinated green tea pills as somewhat had stated somewhere in the forums, but I couldn't find it. I may try that next week after I see how the CLA works first.
September 14th, 2006, 11:25 AM
OK. So here are my questions....
For everyone that has started taking the CLA, how is it going?
When do you take it?
Is it agreeing with you (making you sick)?
Is it working?
Do you take the Phen first in the morning before the CLA?
Do you take the Phen later in the morning after the CLA?
I'm questioning because I'm thinking of getting the CLA. But I dont want to have that sick to the stomach feeling. I take my Phen @ 11:00 am. Cant take it in the morning before eating because I get sick to my stomach with a headache.
Let me know.
September 14th, 2006, 12:21 PM
I'd like to know what time is best too and with or without food. I think it says with a meal is best. I take my phen around 9:30 in the morning on an empty stomach. If anyone is on the green tea, when do you take that and how much, too?