Wearing off during the day

**OneMoreTry** · March 31st, 2008, 09:42 PM

Hi when I started Phen my doctor prescribed me 60 for a month and told me to take one in the morning and one in the afternoon. Well, I didn't do that at first but after about a week or so on it I decided to try it. It helped more and I had lost around 15 pounds in about 4 weeks. My prescription ran out and I had to go to a different doc to get another one. He prescribed me 30 for a month 1 per day and told me to come back in a month. Ok no problem cause I had taken about a 2 week break from Phen so I thought if I started back on 1 per day that would be fine. But now I'm finding that when taking just one a day it starts wearing off around 2pm and I start looking for something to eat. I mean I eat healthly all day (using Weight Watchers to make sure) but what gives with it wearing off like that. Am I taking it too early and expecting a miracle? I take it as soon as I get to work @ 6:30am. so I do the same @ home which is where I have my biggest problems with eating. I don't think I need to take it quite that early. When I get to work there is about 3 1/2 hours worth of work to do and I don't have time to think about eating. Maybe I should just start taking it around 10 or 11 and that should last me through the rest of the day right? I've been thinking about getting the prescription from my doctor and then ordering some online too just so I could take 2 on the days that I feel like I need it. Does anyone else do that? The only reason I'd get the scrip. is cause my insurance pays for most of it. Anyway, any advice would be great. I've only been on Phen since Feb. 11th with a 2 week break in there too so I'm fairly new to this but I'm lovin' the results I've been seeing.
Thanks in advance for any input anyone can give.

**Band Mamma** · April 1st, 2008, 01:14 AM

First, do NOT buy it online. If you're lucky they will send you something, eventually, but it's probably not going to be the real thing AND it will cost you a lot more.
Yes, you can take it later in the day as long as you are not having problems sleeping. If you are taking a pill that is not time-released, you can split it and take 1/2 in the morning and 1/2 in the afternoon. Are you drinking lots of water? Water helps to fill you up, makes your skin look pretty, and helps flush out the fat.
Are you sure you're eating enough? A lot of people try to eat 700-800 calories per day and find out they don't lose and they are hungry all the time. I don't know how calories converts to WW points, though.
What dosage are you taking? If he gave you 60 pills for one month, it sounds like a lower dosage. You can ask for a higher dosage.
If you need more help and no one answers here, feel free to PM me or post on the My Experience with Phentermine board. That board is really busy and where you will find most of us.
Welcome to the boards!

**disneybride** · April 1st, 2008, 02:30 AM

HI I WAS JUST READING YOUR POST AND TOTALLY AGREE THAT YOU SHOULD DEFINATELY NOT BUY ANY ONLINE. ALOT OF PEOPLE SAY IT IS A RIP OFF AND OTHERS SAY THAT THEY NEVER GET ANYTHING EVEN THOUGH THEY'VE PAID FOR IT, AND STILL OTHERS SAY THAT WHEN THEY DO GET IT IT IS NOT THE REAL PHEN, THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. I MEAN IF YOU ARE OK WITH PUTTING SOMETHING INTO YOUR BODY THAT YOU ARE NOT SURE REALLY IS THE MED THAT YOU WANTED THEN BY ALL MEANS SUIT YOUR SELF. BUT I WOULD REALLY ADVISE YOU NOT TO GET IT ONLINE. NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT IF IT REALLY ISN'T PHEN AND YOU MIX IT WITH YOUR REAL PILL YOU COULD HAVE A TERRIBLE REACTION. THINK ABOUT IT. ASK YOUR DOC TO UP THE DOSAGE YOU ARE ON AT YOUR NEXT APPOINTMENT.

**OneMoreTry** · April 1st, 2008, 10:19 AM

Wow thanks for the advice on not buying online, I had no idea.
The first doc that prescribed it for me prescribed 60 37.5mg pills for 1 month. Isn't 37.5 the highest doseage?
I can't remember how WW points convert to calories either but I know that if I have my 30 points a day then I'm eating enough for a person of my size, activity level, age, etc. to lose weight so as long as I'm doing that I'm not worring about not eating enough. As for water, the only side effect I get from the Phen is the worst dry mouth I've ever had, so I don't think I stop drinking water all day.
I had more to say but my daughter is eating things out of the floor so I gotta run. Thanks and any other thoughts on this would be great. I'll be checking out the other boards asap.

Maile

**Band Mamma** · April 1st, 2008, 11:04 AM

That's a whole lotta phen in 1 day! (2 37.5 pills)
Are you sure it's phentermine and not phendetr (yah, can't even spell that this morning, so I'll stop trying before I make a fool of myself)?
I've heard many people says "diet pills don't work for me anymore" and "my body is too used to it so it doesn't work anymore." I wonder if this is what happened to you if you were taking 2 37.5 per day. You took two weeks off, how did you do during that time? How did your body feel? Did you feel all of it left your system during those tow weeks?

**OneMoreTry** · April 1st, 2008, 11:56 AM

When that doc (my phsyc) put me on 2 per day I thought it sounded like alot too. My boss had been on it for about 2 months and she was shocked when I told her that my script. was for 2 a day. During the 1st week off I did good I lost about 2.5 lbs the 2nd week was harder and I gained a little weight (can't remeber how much) but since it was harder the 2nd week I felt pretty sure that it was all out of my system. I had continued to drink lots of water so I also thought that would help flush my system. I just check the bottle to make sure and it is Phentermine 37.5 mg. little white pill w/ blue specks. My family doc wrote this script. for 1 per day. It's almost 10am here so I'm about to take it and see how long it lasts today cause it does help from about 6:30am till about 2pm when it starts to wear off. I don't crash or anything my appetite just goes crazy and I want to eat and eat. When I first started taking it I described it like this: It gives me the time I need to stop and think about what I'm about to eat so I can make better decisions instead of just grabbing whatever cause I'm so hungry. It's still doing that but only for about 8 hours. And the afternoons are when my cravings really kick in. So I think if I take it around 10am then it should get me through to around 5 - 6pm and at that point I can eat a good supper and then it's time to start the bath/bedtime routine w/ Whitney and go to bed myself. I'll try it like this for a few days and see what happens and if that doesn't help any better then I guess I'll go to back to my doc and see what he suggests. I'm scared to try anything else cause Phen is the first diet pill I've tried that doesn't make me jittery or sick. I see that you've lost 61 pounds that's wonderful! Have you had to take breaks from Phen? How long were the breaks and how did you do while off of it? I'm going to check the My Experience boards sometime today, I know there has to be lost of info there. Thanks for all your advice and insight if you have any more just keep it coming.

**Band Mamma** · April 1st, 2008, 10:23 PM

I took a two month break- my own choice. Diet medication was really scary to me and I wanted to make sure I was learning what I needed to learn to make the change forever. I also went off for a week (my choice again) because I had a job interview and wanted it out of my system in case I needed to take a drug test (I just didn't want to tell a prospective employer about it if I didn't have to).
Both times that I started again I had some of the same side effects but not to the same degree I had when I first started. I started with 1/2 of the 37.5 and that's what I still take 98% of the time. Occasionally, I feel as if I need something to push my body to let go of some weight or I will be really hungry for days in a row so I will decide to take a whole pill. By only taking 1/2 pill I am able to sort of stockpile them so I can stay on them longer once my doctor decides he can't prescribe it to me again for awhile. Technically, they are only supposed to prescribe it for 3 months without a break. I'm stockpiling with his permission; actually it was his suggestion. I also felt that, for me anyway, starting with 1/2 pill gave me room to go up in dosage as things got harder.
Perhaps you need to play around with the spacing of your food. Many people eat 3 meals and 2 snacks each day. They eat the same amount of calories, they just spread them out farther throughout the day.
I did fine while off the phen. I lost a little; but more importantly I didn't gain! The two months I went off was November and December- the big food holiday months- so I know I had formed the correct habits to keep the poundage off for life.
How did it go when you took it later in the day?