Meth Vs. Phen

**phenit** · March 9th, 2008, 02:42 AM

Greetings!!! Im about 2 hours new to this forem. Been browsing all the threads and am so happy i found it! Basically I gained 50 pounds with both of my pregnancies. have always prefered to be a tad smaler than normal - it is how i am most comfortable. And getting as big as i did was fine and SO worth it. I nursed my first baby and knew when i was done nursing i would begin searching for a diet pill to shed off the extra weight. So for a year i nursed, ate ok ,didnt work out and lost only 30 during that yr i could not for the life of me lose the last 20 so AS SOON as i was done nursing i started researching and came accross what i thought was a miracle pill - phentermine! I started takeing it to lose weight when i weighed 139 (along with faithfully following the Southbeach diet, started faithfully working out ) and went down to 115 in no time (my goal weight then was 105) The combo of the 3 worked really well for me - i had the energy to work out and work full time, be a great mom etc.. And I loved my results. Then finally when i got down to my almost goal weight goal weight (105) = i got pregnant! So im at that exact point again - now my second child is one year old i have stopped nursing and have lost some on my own but just cant seem to get the rest off. And i really want to take phentermine again.

ok heres the thing with the meth. My husband has me so freaked out that it is basically legalized meth that i havn't gotten it. And it pisses me off so much when he says it - i personally dont know anything about meth never done it but my husband is a recovering addict and swears its the same thing. I googled phen forems tonight and found this one to ask this specific question because i really want to take it and i wanted to prove him wrong and find proof that it isnt similar.

Then i came accross the thread of similar side effect as meth and i read through a bunch of side effect threads that unfortunatley sounded just like meth to me. Dry mouth, irritability, nausia, insomnia, picking, chewing, grinding and clenching teeth, loss of appetite, not being able to get out of bed on the 'off' days, needing more and more to get the same effect, missing that 'first' feeling, sweating, breaking out, anxiety, panick attacks, being wired, ya know? there are a ton. The list goes on and on!

Just HOPING someone especially those that have done meth can tell me its not at all like meth, not addictive and doesnt leave you looking dead. The first time i took it i looked great! I felt better about myself i had a higher sex drive, i had more confidence, i just felt accomplished and comfortable in my own skin! But i never got to that point where i stopped because i was done - i was forced to stop because i got pregnant.

Any feedback? Any hope? Please?

**mommyofKassandCora** · March 9th, 2008, 10:26 AM

Hi.. beleive me.. Phen is not like Meth. It really isn't. It is not even as strong as it used to be years ago.

**phenit** · March 9th, 2008, 02:58 PM

do you mind expanding on that at all? Can you explain the differences to me if youdont mind? Thanks again.

**libby0920** · March 9th, 2008, 06:23 PM

phen is considered a narcotic.. but its no where like meth! phen is a narcotic because if abused it can become addictive but isnt really addictive if used correctly. where as meth is once you use it for the first time.

**craftymomma** · March 9th, 2008, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by libby0920

phen is considered a narcotic.. but its no where like meth! phen is a narcotic because if abused it can become addictive but isnt really addictive if used correctly. where as meth is once you use it for the first time.

I have had lots of friends that used meth...they were so freakin wigged out and you could tell because they'd clean stuff for no reason...like they HAD to find something to do so you wouldn't see them being so fidgety. I have not been like that..and I don't get "wired" I am just more MOTIVATED and a bit anal about keeping things in order. I know I dont act like a meth addicted person, my best friend's husband just got out of rehab for meth and I mentioned to them that I thought people were going to be suspicious that I was on it since Ive lost this weight so fast and they both said, "No, believe me you do NOT act like you are on meth!"

**LaceyBug** · March 9th, 2008, 10:06 PM

Phenit, my husband is a narcotics officer with the county that we live in. When I asked him your question he laughed. Phen & meth have 2 COMPLETELY DIFFERENT chemical makeups. Also, I work at the police dept and I see A LOT of meth heads come thru and I know just by looking at their scabs and teeth or lack there of that this stuff ain't meth. Since I've been dieting and watching what I eat more closely-I have more energy now, even before the phen. Now, hubby just tells me that I'm on crack!!! LOL

Go to Wikipedia.com and look at the different chemical compositions. I tried to cut and paste them here, but it was copyrighted and wouldn't let me.

**CHARMAC80** · March 9th, 2008, 10:19 PM

I am new to this site and to phen. Today was my first day. My fear was that it would be addictive however, right about now, it really doesn't even matter. I really want to meet my goal no matter what. I must admit that I did feel a little odd today during my morning workout but I think it was just all in my head. I'm going to stay with it right 'til the end.

**Krissy8581** · March 10th, 2008, 12:38 AM

phentermine is a calss 4 (i believe) or class 3 prescription medication, wich means its has a very low addiction percentage to it, not even close to meth, So its good

**phenit** · March 10th, 2008, 01:08 AM

Thank u Thanku Thanku! I really appriciate the feedback! So glad i found this forem!

to Laceybug: So glad to have this info especially because one of my husbands arguments were that if its so legal and i got pulled over and a cop searched my car and found an 'online' perscription of phentermine found in my purse than i would be arrested?

lots o love!!
phenit

**kiyah2** · March 13th, 2008, 10:34 AM

I have also heard the same thing from my doctor he told me that phen and meth were similar in some ways. He's not saying you are going to be a drug addict but they do have similar affects. I didnt really question him about it because I personally feel that im in a desperate state and I didnt want anything to discourage me. However it has crossed my mind at times since he said it. Keeping in mind he also mentioned pulmonary hypertension which is far more serious to me than the meth thing because you can get over a addiction but you can never get rid of the pulmonary hypertension. I really hate to bring that up because it opens up doors to more questions or doubts about phen. I still take it because I can't live like this it's too hot to be fat! I dont have the will power and I need that boost it's the only thing I know that has helped me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phentermine.... Click on this website or pit it in your search engine and read about phen and pulmonary hypertension and it also says under the mechanisms of actions section that phen is (not to be confused with stereoisomer) of methamphetamine.

This is the website my doctor uses all the time for his patients try this also.......http://www.com/drugs/drug-4151-Phent...me=Phentermine ...hope this helps Good Luck!

**Mel302** · March 14th, 2008, 09:20 AM

Believe me, this is nothing like Meth. Meth is a horrible drug and if you look it up and see what it does to people after as little as a year, you will understand. I am in law enforcement and I have seen everything. I just started taking Phen at a Weight Loss Clinic and it is medically monitored. I took it years ago and did really well . I think as long as you are responsible and use it in that way....it is a great option to help with weight loss. Tell your husband to chill!

**phenit** · April 5th, 2008, 02:57 AM

i will tell him to chill!! ha thanx!

**Cmarie123** · April 5th, 2008, 08:09 AM

Meth? Not even close! My doctor refers to Phen as "pharmaceutical crack", ONLY because he says that his patients get such awesome results with it that they keep coming back for more, like someone addicted to crack. I think the first several days I took Phen were kind of like a cocaine high. I was cleaning everything, talking fast and couldn't sleep. However, in about 3 days, that wore off. Don't worry about it. You will be just fine.