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Whowhon · March 31st, 2002, 04:40 PM

Is anyone taking xenical with the phentermine? I was taking it back in December when I first started dieting and exercising. I quit taking it at the beginning of this month and have noticed a major slow down of weight lose. Anybody have the same problem or any ideas? All your knowledge on the subject is greatly apprieciated.

whowhon

lenny felten · April 1st, 2002, 10:27 AM

Hi --

I have taken Xenical for about 1 year, BUT I only take it every 2 to 3 weeks. I use phen for 2 or 3 weeks in a row, go off phen, and use Xenical for a week. My Dr. recommended taking short breaks from phen since your body becomes immune to it. I like the weeks on phen - but DON'T like the week on Xenical! I usually gain back 1 or 2 pounds and I don't like the side effects. BUT, if it worked for you, I'd go for it. Taking Xenical and phen together won't interact negatively with one another. Also, alot of people wouldn't want to pay the cost of taking both of them at the same time, but if you can afford to and can withstand the Xenical side effects, I'd go right back on it!

Good luck!!

Whowhon · April 1st, 2002, 11:17 AM

Lenny

Thanks, I take the phentermine in the morning before breakfast then 3 hours later I eat then I take a Xenical. I take another Xenical after lunch. Then another after dinner. I seem to lose more weight this way.

The price for me is not bad. My insurance covers both meds as long as my doctor prescribes the meds 3 months at a time. I do the mail order through my husbands company. I only have to pay $20 for the three month prescription so for both I pay $40 for three month supply-not bad. Most people have to pay $125 a month for Xenical and $35-$50 for Phentermine.

Thanks for the info. I was wondering if anyone was taking both. You are the only one who has answered me.

whowhon :)

mks · April 2nd, 2002, 05:44 PM

I have been taking both Xenical and phentermine for quite awhile. I take xenical only when I eat a meal that has quite a bit of fat in it! I don't have bad side affects - unless I eat something very high in fat!! Then I have stomach cramps and alot of going to the bathroom the next day!

lenny felten · April 4th, 2002, 01:52 AM

Hi again WhoWhon--

How do you get insurance to cover these meds? I thought any diet-related medication is NOT covered, no matter what kind of insurance you have. I have tried and always get rejected, so it comes out of my pocket. Why does it matter if you order for 3 months or 1 month?

Thanks!!

Whowhon · April 4th, 2002, 04:44 AM

Lenny,

My husband has Cigna Insurance which goes through Caremark for prescription coverage. I also had Aetna prior and they would cover one prescription but not both. So of course I had them cover the xenical then I would get the phentermine for the generic so I wouldn't have to pay as much. The reason my doctor has to write a script for 3 months at a time is because the insurance pays everything but $20, ONLY if I do a mail order through them (caremark). If I go through a local pharmacy-like Wal-mart than they won't pay anything. Now, when I got my first initial script, they paid for the script at the local pharmacy but, I had to mail the rest of the scripts to them for the rest of the fills. In other words, my doctor had to write two scripts. One for phentermine no refill, then one for phentermine with three refills, etc..... I know that alot of insurances won't pay for drugs that help with obesity. I guess I am lucky that my husbands insurance covers it. I hope this helps. The place where my husband works also gives their employees incentives to loose weight. Every quarter they take a physical fitness test and if they do better that quarter than the last they get a bonus depending on how you do you can get anywhere from $250-1200.

Hope this helps.

whowhon :)

lenny felten · April 10th, 2002, 08:30 AM

Thanks for the info! As of January, we have Aetna too. I'll check with them, but I have a feeling since my meds would be more for weight "maintenance", not initial weight loss, they'll fight me on it. BUT, it sure doesn't hurt to give it a try, right?

maggie40 · April 11th, 2002, 10:05 AM

Hi
I began taking xenical and phen 4/5 and i noticed loose stools right away, so if you take xenical i would suggest as soon as you get that "gas" feeling you use the bathroom to pass it. I havent had any accidents and I am doing well witht hem. The other thing i noticed is I need to take the phen about an hour or so before or after my xenical not with it or for some reason the xenical makes the phen not work as well. I dont mind the loose stools with xenical, I joking call it just "crapping out the fat". As gross as that sounds I am willing to accept it as another wonderful help to my needed weight loss.
sw 330
last week weight 318

the combo of meds werks very well for me.
cw

March 31st, 2002, 04:40 PM	#1 (permalink)
Whowhon Gold Phenster Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 625 Lost Weight: 10, now that I gained 50 pounds back Current Weight: 230 Goal Weight: 120-130 I have a certain look rather than weight.	Is anyone taking xenical with the phentermine? I was taking it back in December when I first started dieting and exercising. I quit taking it at the beginning of this month and have noticed a major slow down of weight lose. Anybody have the same problem or any ideas? All your knowledge on the subject is greatly apprieciated. whowhon whowhon

April 1st, 2002, 11:17 AM	#3 (permalink)
Whowhon Gold Phenster Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 625 Lost Weight: 10, now that I gained 50 pounds back Current Weight: 230 Goal Weight: 120-130 I have a certain look rather than weight.	Lenny Thanks, I take the phentermine in the morning before breakfast then 3 hours later I eat then I take a Xenical. I take another Xenical after lunch. Then another after dinner. I seem to lose more weight this way. The price for me is not bad. My insurance covers both meds as long as my doctor prescribes the meds 3 months at a time. I do the mail order through my husbands company. I only have to pay $20 for the three month prescription so for both I pay $40 for three month supply-not bad. Most people have to pay $125 a month for Xenical and $35-$50 for Phentermine. Thanks for the info. I was wondering if anyone was taking both. You are the only one who has answered me. whowhon :) whowhon

April 4th, 2002, 04:44 AM	#6 (permalink)
Whowhon Gold Phenster Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 625 Lost Weight: 10, now that I gained 50 pounds back Current Weight: 230 Goal Weight: 120-130 I have a certain look rather than weight.	Lenny, My husband has Cigna Insurance which goes through Caremark for prescription coverage. I also had Aetna prior and they would cover one prescription but not both. So of course I had them cover the xenical then I would get the phentermine for the generic so I wouldn't have to pay as much. The reason my doctor has to write a script for 3 months at a time is because the insurance pays everything but $20, ONLY if I do a mail order through them (caremark). If I go through a local pharmacy-like Wal-mart than they won't pay anything. Now, when I got my first initial script, they paid for the script at the local pharmacy but, I had to mail the rest of the scripts to them for the rest of the fills. In other words, my doctor had to write two scripts. One for phentermine no refill, then one for phentermine with three refills, etc..... I know that alot of insurances won't pay for drugs that help with obesity. I guess I am lucky that my husbands insurance covers it. I hope this helps. The place where my husband works also gives their employees incentives to loose weight. Every quarter they take a physical fitness test and if they do better that quarter than the last they get a bonus depending on how you do you can get anywhere from $250-1200. Hope this helps. whowhon :) whowhon

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April 1st, 2002, 10:27 AM	#2 (permalink)
lenny felten Bronze Phenster Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 12 Lost Weight: 45# Current Weight: 145# Goal Weight: 137 to 138#	Hi -- I have taken Xenical for about 1 year, BUT I only take it every 2 to 3 weeks. I use phen for 2 or 3 weeks in a row, go off phen, and use Xenical for a week. My Dr. recommended taking short breaks from phen since your body becomes immune to it. I like the weeks on phen - but DON'T like the week on Xenical! I usually gain back 1 or 2 pounds and I don't like the side effects. BUT, if it worked for you, I'd go for it. Taking Xenical and phen together won't interact negatively with one another. Also, alot of people wouldn't want to pay the cost of taking both of them at the same time, but if you can afford to and can withstand the Xenical side effects, I'd go right back on it! Good luck!!

April 2nd, 2002, 05:44 PM	#4 (permalink)
mks Phen Newbie Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 6 Lost Weight: 0lbs	I have been taking both Xenical and phentermine for quite awhile. I take xenical only when I eat a meal that has quite a bit of fat in it! I don't have bad side affects - unless I eat something very high in fat!! Then I have stomach cramps and alot of going to the bathroom the next day!

April 4th, 2002, 01:52 AM	#5 (permalink)
lenny felten Bronze Phenster Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 12 Lost Weight: 45# Current Weight: 145# Goal Weight: 137 to 138#	Hi again WhoWhon-- How do you get insurance to cover these meds? I thought any diet-related medication is NOT covered, no matter what kind of insurance you have. I have tried and always get rejected, so it comes out of my pocket. Why does it matter if you order for 3 months or 1 month? Thanks!!

April 10th, 2002, 08:30 AM	#7 (permalink)
lenny felten Bronze Phenster Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 12 Lost Weight: 45# Current Weight: 145# Goal Weight: 137 to 138#	Thanks for the info! As of January, we have Aetna too. I'll check with them, but I have a feeling since my meds would be more for weight "maintenance", not initial weight loss, they'll fight me on it. BUT, it sure doesn't hurt to give it a try, right?

April 11th, 2002, 10:05 AM	#8 (permalink)
maggie40 Bronze Phenster Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: illinios Posts: 17 Lost Weight: 0lbs Current Weight: 330 Goal Weight: 200	Hi I began taking xenical and phen 4/5 and i noticed loose stools right away, so if you take xenical i would suggest as soon as you get that "gas" feeling you use the bathroom to pass it. I havent had any accidents and I am doing well witht hem. The other thing i noticed is I need to take the phen about an hour or so before or after my xenical not with it or for some reason the xenical makes the phen not work as well. I dont mind the loose stools with xenical, I joking call it just "crapping out the fat". As gross as that sounds I am willing to accept it as another wonderful help to my needed weight loss. sw 330 last week weight 318 the combo of meds werks very well for me. cw