i feel that PHEN isnt as effective after 1 week

[ipvidual]

hI ALL, as ones who know me , im on my 11th or so day of dieting. I started about 10 days ago taking 30mg capsules phentermine, brand DUROMINE. i did pay $111 for a pack of 30's , and thats with a script that my doc prescribed. I noticed few days ago that appetite doesnt disappear for as long as it did, I feel like it wears out a lot quicker than it did when i started taking it initially. Today i took 2 x 30mg capsules and to tell u the truth its same as taking 1, i still feel hungry few hours after taking it. Thought i mention it, i take it as soon as i wake up and try not to eat at least an hour or 2 after taking it.

AM I DOING ANYTHING WRONG ??????????? I NEED HELP. please let me know.


I went to my doc who prescribed phen to me and told her that I want to try methylphenidate or ritalin (dexamphetamine) but she couldnt find out of all info provided on it anything stating that it can also be used for obesity as an appetite suppressant. I guess i was unlucky and should of told her to look at wiki not her MEDICAL DIRECTORATE prog that all docs IN OZ use to prescribe meds and so on.

DO U THINK I SHOULD START TAKING 3 ?? 90mg a day, i think its a bit over the hill, but i wait for someones support and will be awaiting for someones reply.

GREATLY APRECIATE ALL HELP. AND DO LET ME KNOW YOUR VIEWS, IDEAS, TIPS AND ADVICE. I WILL appreciate all input.

[Sus65]

Do NOT take 60 or 90 mg of phen ever! You are seriously gambling with your heart/blood pressure by doing so--that is just reckless! I know you feel desperate but you can't just increase your dose without the approval of your doc. You are taking a class 3 drug that when taken improperly can seriously damage your heart.

Phen does not work for everyone in terms of decreasing the appetite. Talk with your doctor some more--many people are successful with the phen/antidepressant combo like phen/pro (prozac), phen-zo (zoloft), phen-effexor.

Are you drinking plenty of water? Try shooting for half your body weight in water. For example if you weighed 200 lbs you'd shoot for 100 oz of water daily. Are you drinking caffeinated drinks and coffee? Caffeine greatly diminishes phen's effeciveness. Are you eating enough protein--protein keeps you feeling fuller longer. Are you drinking diet sodas, or eating foods with aspartame, splenda etc? Those are really bad for you and will actually keep you hungry and cause you to eat more--stay away from them. You're better off with real sugar over that crap. I'm not telling you to eat sugar but if you HAVE to have something sweet occasionally just don't do artificial sweeteners--the same goes for msg.

Hang in there and chat with your doctor.

[ipvidual]

thanks for your opinion/advice, i appreciate it. Im worried what the reason could be for it not being effective after 1 week or so but cant think of any reason. Its not that anything changed physiologically / pharmaceutically but something occured for phentermine being ineffective.

If anyone has any knowledge pls let me know what the cause of this dilemma may be..


THX AGAIN

[BonnieJo]

I agree with Sus you should not be aking that much as well. I think alot of people think that you can just get on this pill and the weight will just fall off. That is not the case. You have to drink lots of water and follow a strict diet in order for it to work. As for the hunger are you sure is hunger that you are feeling? For awhile I was mistaking cramps for hunger pains. I drank more water and the cramps went away. If you drink half your weight in oz of water it really helps so if you are not doing that already I would try that first. Good Luck!

[sosassafrass]

Originally Posted by ipvidual

hI ALL, as ones who know me , im on my 11th or so day of dieting. I started about 10 days ago taking 30mg capsules phentermine, brand DUROMINE. i did pay $111 for a pack of 30's , and thats with a script that my doc prescribed. I noticed few days ago that appetite doesnt disappear for as long as it did, I feel like it wears out a lot quicker than it did when i started taking it initially. Today i took 2 x 30mg capsules and to tell u the truth its same as taking 1, i still feel hungry few hours after taking it. Thought i mention it, i take it as soon as i wake up and try not to eat at least an hour or 2 after taking it.

AM I DOING ANYTHING WRONG ??????????? I NEED HELP. please let me know.


I went to my doc who prescribed phen to me and told her that I want to try methylphenidate or ritalin (dexamphetamine) but she couldnt find out of all info provided on it anything stating that it can also be used for obesity as an appetite suppressant. I guess i was unlucky and should of told her to look at wiki not her MEDICAL DIRECTORATE prog that all docs IN OZ use to prescribe meds and so on.

DO U THINK I SHOULD START TAKING 3 ?? 90mg a day, i think its a bit over the hill, but i wait for someones support and will be awaiting for someones reply.

GREATLY APRECIATE ALL HELP. AND DO LET ME KNOW YOUR VIEWS, IDEAS, TIPS AND ADVICE. I WILL appreciate all input.

i'm not going to beat you up or dogpile you...but don't double or triple your phen dosage anymore, please...not ever!. Like Sus says...that's very dangerous and can lead to adverse effects. I take the phen 37.5...I like the fact that I only take 1 a day and i take it on an empty stomach...i've been on it for 3 weeks and its just fine.

Sus asked some very valid questions and provided sound advice...how much water are you drinking? what is your diet looking like as far as number of calories and quality of calories you are consuming? are you exercising? do you take your phen on an empty stomach? do you take a multivitamin or any additional supplements because that may be reducing the effects of the phentermine?

One thing i'd recommend...look into perhaps modifying some things in your diet and exercise regimen before seeking out an additional drug. If changes to your diet or exercise regimen isn't helping you curb your appetite...then maybe the supplemental drug would be an option. I keep a food journal and track everything I eat and my trainer and I review where i can cut down or increase in my diet.

There are some ladies that take chromium picolinate as a supplement and i've looked into that particular supplement and read about the benefits for those that have Type 2 diabetes or metabolic syndrome...there is one study that Weill Medical College of Cornell University in New York in which researchers found that chromium picolinate helped reduce cravings among patients with atypical depression, a form of the disorder that may involve overeating, weight gain, excessive sleeping and a feeling of heaviness in the arms and legs.

Jasp and another poster (i wanna say nikkimarie) posted some great info on the benefits of increasing your water intake as well as adding lemon to your water to assist in decreasing phentermine tolerance.

In short...i'd say look at areas in which you can modify your diet and exercise regimen, then talk to your health care provider about supplementing the phentermine with additional drugs...but yeah, don't double up or triple your dosage for any reason unless your doctor says so.

[KayleeNicole]

Originally Posted by ipvidual

thanks for your opinion/advice, i appreciate it. Im worried what the reason could be for it not being effective after 1 week or so but cant think of any reason. Its not that anything changed physiologically / pharmaceutically but something occured for phentermine being ineffective.

If anyone has any knowledge pls let me know what the cause of this dilemma may be..


THX AGAIN

Perhaps you are building up your tolerance quicker? Have you always been an avid caffeine drinker?

[msmil]

Thats just the way it goes.. it works awesomely at first and then it doesnt anymore. The first day i started phen i ran 8 miles and didnt eat a thing. Two weeks later i felt basically normal on it.. and had plenty of appetite. Unfortunately, that 'pop' you get from it is short-lived and fleeting.

I would not suggest tripleing your dose, but thanx for the chuckle.

[kelmhand]

i agree with msmil-its great at first, but is only short lived!!! the more you take the less its gonna work. you could try eating more protein. it makes you more full and stays with you longer. make sure you are drinking your water also!!! its kinda a head thing and it takes time, but don't give up!!! make sure you exercise too!!!

msmil can tell you-its a long process!

[AirsoftWidow]

IP, To what extent might the interactions with the other medications you are taking (valium, temazepam, oxycodone) be contributing to your problem?

I'm not a doctor, or a pharmacist, but I do know that drug interactions occur.

[Jimswife]

You don't really say what you are doing besides taking the phen, so it is hard to advise you. I am pretty sure that each of us watch what we eat, take in our water and exercise. Phen is a tool to use, not the end all be all.

For you to suggest ritalin is a little scary to me, as we give it to open heart patients to help get them motivated to do their exercises after open heart surgery. It is not just given out, upon suggestion of a patient, so that they can have energy.

Please evaluate what you are doing to help yourself. You need to give us more info about your routine so that we can adivse you better. I do hope you stopped doubling your dose of phen.

[nickaroo242]

The only thing I can say is you need to keep in mind the medication only does 10-20% of the work. You need to make sure you are eating enough of the right foods, drinking enough water and excercising. I think you are taking a big health risk doubling your dose. Phen is only an aid to assist you in weight loss, it is up to you to make the life changes nessesary to mantain a healthy lifestyle.

[ipvidual]

thx every1 for your advice. Apart from taking phen i eat no junk food , where as for years I have been eating it every lunch time,. Now I eat cereal with blueberries for breakfast. Then for lunch I eat muesli bar . Problem is , is in the evening after I have dinner , few hours later at about 9 10pm I feel incredibly hungry. I understand part of hunger is from anti depressant Iam taking being doxepin/deptran. As far as my pharmacological knows goes, it is serotonin reuptake inhibitor. Most antidepressant meds will make any1 gain weight, or tend to gain weight. I admit I dont drink much water and I know I should. I drink about 1L of green tea that I make daily from fresh leaves. Oxycontin I dont take daily and only reserve myself to take it when I am in severe back pain, which is few times a month.

JIMSWIFE: regarding ritalin do you recommend not even trying to get doc to prescribe it as alternative?.. Im sure I mentioned it in my post before somewhere how i did go back to my doc and asked her for ritalin or dexamphetamine instead of phen but she didnt find anything in description of a drug that mentions appetite suppressive actions. So she said no and I didnt think about it further. Now that I feel that phen is way less effective compared to when I started taking it over 11 days ago. I still think its not right for a drug with a similar molecular structure of amph and methamph losing its potency so quick. Maybe my immune system is extremely fast. All my life I used to be skinny as, until I settled down few years ago and started living a calm and stress less life. I have not been doing anything physical and just eat, rest, sleep and so on. That life style is most deffinately what caused weight gain for me. Im 28yrs old now. I thought if i wont start losing some weight now, it will be a lot more difficult later on in life. So thats the reason why i decided to diet, with or without the help that phen was providing.

THOUGHT I MENTION: its 11am now , i took 30mg phen at 9am and now im feeling hungry as. This isnt how I was feeling when I started taking it. And i do not know what Im doing wrong or if its normal...

THX ALL FOR YOUR ADVICE AND TIME PUT IN TO HELP ME, I GREATLY APPRECIATE IT!.

iS there similar medication to phentermine? That has been proven to be effective?

( " Its easy to munch junk thats tasty, than to lose weight and staying healthy" ) [iPv]

[kelmhand]

Have you tried taking the 37.5 mg? I started out on the 30 mg and was only on it for a month. I needed more of a kick, so the doc upped it. I do know that some ppl take it 2x a day. But just be careful. I was on it for about a 8 months then I started taking only half a pill. I took a half for about a year. I lost my weight and then some, but now I am on Tenuate 75mg. I have been on it since Friday and seem to really like it. I have mild headaches and dry mouth but thats normal I guess. I also take topamax 200mg for migraines. At night when I want to eat, I drink a glass of lemon water.

[Jimswife]

It sounds like you are not getting enough protein in your diet and maybe not enough calories. The green tea has caffeine in it, and 1L is a significant amount. You need to drink water. Are you getting any exercise at all?

I have a few concerns here. It seems as if you think you can take this pill and magically, you won't be hungry anymore and the weight will just fall off, not true. I'm not sure how much education you are getting from your doctor either. How many calories are you consuming? Were the side effects of phen discussed with you?

I have only the utmost concern about your health and well-being. Don't get discouraged with phen just yet, but you have to be sensible. Many of us are losing weight with this med, but as I said before, we have some common denominators, watching what we eat, consuming water and exercise. Ask your doctor for the 37.5mg dose of phen. Take it in the morning on an empty stomach, then eat breakfast 2 hours later and consume some protein, that will keep you full longer.

This site is so full of tips and tricks for getting the weight off. Everyone here is very supportive and you should visit often. I understand your desire to lose weight, I'm right there with you, but don't compromise your health to do it. Get in to the habit of eating right, and exercising now, while you have phen as a tool, because you can't take it forever.

Best of luck,

[ipvidual]

thx for all your input and advice youve given me. I do think I should start exercising, YOURE right about that and I may be lacking in protein foods. Also next time I will see my doc I will tell her that I would like to try 40mg's capsules as in Australia they dont have 37.5mg tabs. All of them are capsules from my knowledge in oz market. Iam still considering getting ritalin, not to chace the high but to be on something that I will feel satisfied and not sleepy, drowsy, hungry as I usually tend to.

Let me know if you think I may be making a big mistake by getting ritalin ( dextroamphetamine ) prescribed. As I do not see much of a difference between phen and dex.

THX ALL

[KaysKidz]

OK, first off...after googling your weight to convert to pounds, you have very little weight to lose. When you only have 13lbs to lose, it's not going to come off quickly. Those last few pounds are always stubborn...phen or not. I think you need to be realistic about that, first and foremost.

2ndly, phen is an aide. Not a cure. It honestly sounds as though you are not eating enough. You need to eat every 2-3hrs...small healthy frequent meals/snacks are KEY to keeping your metabolism working at it's best. Drink water. Exercise. And make healthy choices about what you put in your body.

[Jimswife]

Listen dear, Ritalin comes at a high risk for you. In this country, you would not even qualify for it. It is to treat ADHD in children and adults and like I said, one of the uses is to motivate open heart patients who have little energy after surgery.

As with phen, it can cause heart arrythmia, high blood pressure nerveousness and insomnia. It is known to cause weight loss, but that is after prolonged use. Roughly, you are trying to lose 13.2lbs, you would have had difficulty even getting phen.

You are going to have to set up a plan and stick to it. You have to go in to this with the mindset that you have to make changes. I think you see our numbers and how we have lost weight, but we have had to work at it. We plan our meals, our exercise and our water. We incorporate tips that we learn from one another.

Please don't go for what is quick and easy. I understand the cost of phen is expensive for you, and perhaps you could investigate getting it some place different, but if you were exercising and drinking your water, you may have those 6kg off in one months time. Adding another pill is never the answer.

Let me give you an example of my day and my eating habit.

Up at 7am, take my phen with a glass of water
9am - eat breakfast, usually eggs and sausage links (2 or 3), another glass of water, but by now, I have filled my 32oz water bottle and have dropped a slice of lemon in it.
10am - off to the gym for up to 90 min, drinking my water, before, during and after workout.
11am-protein bar in purse and eating it after workout, or protein shake, or piece of fruit.
Noon - lunch time, a salad with some form of protein, chicken or fish, healthy choice meal, with a small side salad, around 300-400 cals
I will eat a piece of fruit if I get hungry before dinner, but since I consume protein, I'm not generally hungry.
I eat dinner around 5pm with the family. I may have an evening snack, before 8pm, of fruit or microwave popcorn, sugar free pudding.

I keep safe snacks on hand. Cut up fruit and veggies and keep them in the fridge.

I wear a pedometer and try to get my 10,000 steps in daily. I keep a journal of what I eat. If I burn 1000 cals at the gym, I will probably eat 1800 cals. It just varies from 1200-1800. You have to get creative and make it a game. How can you make something lower in fat and calories, yet it still tastes good, you have to play around in the kitchen.

My ticker on this site is encouragement for me, I take weekly measurements and weekly weight. I'm very visual, so I have my own personl graph, with goals marked and rewards set up for meeting those goals. I take pictures monthly and print them and keep them in my journal.

My uniforms fit oh so loose, that is reward in itself. Do it smart, be safe and know, that what is quick isn't always right. No one will be the advocate of your body but you, be as good to it as you can be.

Sorry if it seems as if I am rambling, but I have seen enough tragedy, among those with good intentions to last me a lifetime.

Blessings,

[Windygirl]

All that and then it turns out you only need to lose 13 pounds? And since phen isn't doing it fast enough you want to get ritalin? Wow. I am thinking you should eat some protein, cut out the green tea, get some exercise and be thrilled that all you have to lose is 13 pounds. When you're that close to your ideal weight, it is hard to take it off. You really have to work at it and push yourself harder than you'll want to, but that's what you have to do. There's no pill that is going to substitute for doing the work & controlling yourself from eating when you shouldn't.

[sosassafrass]

Originally Posted by ipvidual

thx every1 for your advice. Apart from taking phen i eat no junk food , where as for years I have been eating it every lunch time,. Now I eat cereal with blueberries for breakfast. Then for lunch I eat muesli bar . Problem is , is in the evening after I have dinner , few hours later at about 9 10pm I feel incredibly hungry. I understand part of hunger is from anti depressant Iam taking being doxepin/deptran. As far as my pharmacological knows goes, it is serotonin reuptake inhibitor. Most antidepressant meds will make any1 gain weight, or tend to gain weight. I admit I dont drink much water and I know I should. I drink about 1L of green tea that I make daily from fresh leaves. Oxycontin I dont take daily and only reserve myself to take it when I am in severe back pain, which is few times a month.


THOUGHT I MENTION: its 11am now , i took 30mg phen at 9am and now im feeling hungry as. This isnt how I was feeling when I started taking it. And i do not know what Im doing wrong or if its normal...

THX ALL FOR YOUR ADVICE AND TIME PUT IN TO HELP ME, I GREATLY APPRECIATE IT!.

the ladies pretty much summed it up...and trust me, i'm sure these ladies are telling you this out of concern and love.

i can tell you right now...you aren't getting in enough calories and you are consuming a LOT of caffiene, if i remember correctly, caffiene does block the effects of phentermine and will cause you to excrete it from your system faster and increase your tolerance to phentermine.

I know the calories thing sounds crazy...but your body is a machine and it needs fuel to run. Unless you are under medical supervision...it is recommend not to consume less than 1200kcal (sorry...the scientist in me is coming out) for women. It is also recommended...in order to prevent your metabolism from being shot all to hell...eat 4-6 small meals per day. Jimswife gave an excellent example of her daily diet.

here's an example of mine...this is what i ate yesterday:

- take phentermine with 16.9 oz of water (5:30am)
- meal 1: 1 banana, 3 slices of turkey bacon, 16.9 oz of water (6:45am)
- meal 2: 1 small container of fiber one yogurt, 16.9 oz of water (9:15am)
- meal 3: grilled chicken breast on half piece of flatbread with lettuce, cucumber, green pepper, red onion, shredded carrots and spicy mustard, apple slices (1 whole apple), 24 oz. water (12:15pm)
- meal 4: 0.5 serving of pistachios, 16 oz of water (3:30pm)
- meal 5: 1 kashi bar (6:15pm)- pre work-out
** I did 30 minutes of cardio and 30 minutes of weight training **
- meal 6: 2 slices of deli shaved fat-free chicken breast, 2 pieces of fat free muenster cheese, 7 fat-free saltine crackers, 0.5 cup of steamed broccoli, 1 pear, water (8:25pm)
** i was somewhat peckish while i was trying to wind down...so i had 4 oz. of blueberries before i went to bed @ 9:00pm.

I have no problems with insomnia...i get about 7-9 hours of sleep a night

as you can see...i eat quite often during the day...and as other ladies suggested, keep your snacks on you. I keep mine in my purse because I'm learning to stay ahead of my hunger, because if i wait for my stomach to growl before i eat...that's too late. All of that food that I ate yesterday and I didn't exceed 1400kcal..i try to eat between 1200-1400kcal/day

Before you go to your physician...cut the green tea out for a whole week and drink water...no fruit juices, no soda, nothing with a sugar substitute in it...just straight water with lemon or lime in it if you get tired of drinking plain water...see if your tolerance to the phentermine starts to decrease.

Several ladies said the same thing about devising a plan and sticking to it...its the only way this is going to work. Phentermine is not a fix-all...its not a panacea that will cure your weight ills. It is a tool..just like diet and exercise.

I want you to get to your goal weight...but I want you to do it safely and i want you to keep the weight off.

Sorry this is so long...even though I don't know you from Adam's housecat...I want you to be safe and I'm glad you asked this question and sought out the advise of people on this site.

[ipvidual]

thx heaps every1 , your advice is more than anything I would have read in book in a year. THANKS SINCERELY FOR IT ALL.

Its 10:17am now in OZ, I took 30mg phen at 8:40am and just ate bowl of cereal with blueberries and sultanas as extras. I consider breakfast being most important meal of the day so I do not cut it short I pour nearly 1/2Litre of no fat milk which has no taste at all , then about 50g of fresh blueberries about 20g of sultanas/raisins and I eat it slowly while always reading something. I noticed I cant eat without reading. I guess it could be considered as a habbit in itself.

I stood on my scales this morning and I was suprised. I was weighing slightly under 91kg's . It was a suprise because for last few days my weight has been playing games with me and I was around 92kg mark and 3 days ago even close to 93. I started at about 95-96kg's. I understand its not too much weight I need to lose compared to many other peers on this forum but really I need my weight to be at 83-84kg. Its been nearly 2 weeks since I started dieting and not eating any tasty junk foods at all as I would daily prior to deciding to lost weight. I was noticing myself starting to look not very pretty with a stomach as if Im 4mths pregnant. I cant say I look like Im not pregnant at all at the moment but my baby is growing smaller and smaller )

I appreciate incredibly all the meal breakdowns you all provided me with. It gives me a better idea of how I should be eating properly. And you guys lost a lot of weight compared with me. But we are all different and body works different for us all, but main principle of dieting is same and I understand it a lot better after what you all shared with me. I wasnt eating enough protein , You're right, I wasnt drinking enough water, I mean i wasnt drinking water at all, just brewed green tea. I shall from now on listen to your advice and drink water instead of tea and even after meals i wont be drinking juice but water.

ABOUT RITALIN. THANX ONCE AGAIN for caring for me, though we dont know each other in real life but with the help if internet we do form some sort of a bond, no matter what others say. I do care for you all also and hope all your wishes whether its diet related or otherwise come true and you are all happy with yourselves. You are all great and kind people and I do sincerely feel and appreciate that so much that words really cant describe. ...NEARLY 4GOT what i wanted to mention about RITALIN. I went to my doctor yesterday without making an appointment and she saw me without any delays or problems. I brought my mini laptop with me with WIKI website open where it has dextroamphetamine information and the fact that it can also be associated with supressing appetite. She looked at my laptops screen for 2 secs and said to me what she said before "I AM A DOCTOR AND I WILL NOT PRESCRIBE MEDICATION THAT I DO NOT KNOW ABOUT ITS WEIGHT LOSS EFFECTS AND ALL I CAN SEE ON MY MED DATABASE IS THAT ITS ONLY USED FOR ADHD or narcolepsy" I told her that I think 30mg isnt enough , so she asked me if I wanted 40mg for her to prescribe and I said YES. After she prescribed it to me and gave me script for it she told me that she will not prescribe DUROMINE to me anymore and I should rely on losing weight without help of pills. AS SOME OF U MENTIONED ABOVE ABOUT MYSELF ALREADY HAVING PROBS GETTING PHEN PRESCRIBED. YOU WERE VERY RIGHT
Needless to say that doc also prescribed me 20 80mg oxycontin and said next script for oxys will be in 4 months. I thanked her for everything and left.

I havent bought 40mg phen capsules yet as i have 10 or so 30mg ones left and I will finish them first. ANYHOW i typed more than I intended.

Im sorry if I bored you with all this information. AND ONCE AGAIN I THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING SO CARING AND HELPFUL. RELY ON MY HELP ANYTIME!!!.
i need to change my TICKER but I will do that when I get back in an hour. THANK U ALL .

HOW do u guys stop yourselves from eating in the evening? as its the time when i struggle to control my appetite the most and eat a few muesli bars before bed. which Im sure isnt very good.

CHEERS
EuG

[KaysKidz]

Congratulations on the loss and on realizing what needs to change. Another thing to remember, this is not to be considered dieting. Dieting is temporary. And if you don't make life changes, the weight you lose now, will come back. You need to make permanent changes to keep it off once you get to your ideal weight. Losing weight and keeping it off is HARD work. Do not rely on the phen to do it for you, or you will not have long term success.

As for evening snacking...I'm lucky. I've never been a snacker. So once dinner is done...I'm done. And I eat at 6pm and don't go to bed until 11pm.

[Jimswife]

If I want an evening snack, it will be microwave popcorn, the 100 calorie bag, sugar free jello, with whip topping, makes me feel like I am cheating. I like cheese sticks or sugar free pudding. Pretty much the same things I would snack on during the day. An apple with a bit of peanut butter is good and it has the protein, to help you get through the night.

I am so glad you could see that we weren't trying to be critical, just very concerned. I think with the changes you have made, you will see the weight come off.

Best of luck to you,

Shelia

[ipvidual]

THANKS TO EVERYONE ONCE AGAIN. I just had a shower and today was first day i did some extreme exercise which was painting my houses new front structure, so i was sweating and had feelings that i was close to fainting heh. I think its not recommended doing intense exercise while on phentermine. Needless to say i havent had any water for nearly 2 hours and sweat on a tshirt u could literaly squeeze off my tshirt and sweat would pour. I think people do tend to sweat more on phentermine isnt a myth but a proven fact.

Before I jumped into shower I got on my scales and was amazed to see my weight being exactly on 90kg. Including exercise into daily routine is a huge factor for losing weight. I have been abusing my body for majority of my life, I admit it to you all. I aint a saint. So recently I decided to start looking after myself at the age of 28. I think its never too late if u really desire it. Us humans are such species that we can get used to any enviornment, any condition, any situation, and any food regime. Do you all agree with me on that ?

I have stopped abusing myself chemically years ago, but was still putting a lot of filth (junk food) into my body on daily basis until 2 weeks ago. I can even at 2 weeks time see and feel progress that I achieved. All of us started to eat healthy and live healthy for some reason....

THERE IS NO GET WITHOUT GIVE.

i Shall stop typing as of now and put my feet up to watch tv.

When I think now how Iam going to cope when I will get 40mg 30capsules of phentermine dispensed and I will have only 1 left... Will I be able to control my appetite without this miracle drugs help??? It doesnt really scare me, but it doesnt really excite me neither ))

Let me know your valuable views when you get a chance..

BEST OF LUCK AND HEALTH TO U ALL..

CHEERS - EuG

[KaysKidz]

If you get light headed, eat something. We've all done it...and it's your body's way of telling you that you've gone too far! I think it might be blood sugar dropping, but don't quote me on that. Just get something in you!

As for doing it without phen...I'm confident I will succeed. A lot of that will come from pure determination on my part to never ever let myself go again. And the rest will come from the new habits that I will have formed over the time I was on phen. I can't stress this enough...this is my new FOREVER. I can't eat one way while on phen and then go back to how I used to eat and expect the weight to stay gone. You have to mentally be ready to accept that, and I am. I do not live my life feeling deprived in ANY way. I eat what I like...in reason. Are there things I've given up? Yes, I have. And I do not miss them AT ALL.

[ipvidual]

hi all, hope every1 is doing well.

Just a quick question: what in general decreases effects of phentermine apart from as i already know thx to u being caffeine. Is there many other foods / substances that diminish phen's effects. Also if I have been taking phen for example for a period of 3-4 months, do u think there will be a withdrawal once i stop taking it ???

Please let me know when have a chance, I will appreciate it. You already helped me more than I could ever have expected, as I stated earlier.

ALL THE BEST TO U ALL AND HOPE HEARING FROM U.

THANKS A TONNE,

EuG

[KaysKidz]

Originally Posted by ipvidual

[/B] Also if I have been taking phen for example for a period of 3-4 months, do u think there will be a withdrawal once i stop taking it ???

As with anything, if you have been taking/using/drinking etc for any extended amount of time, I think there is a chance of going through withdrawls if you end it immediately. When I go off of phen, I will have been on it for aprox 8mo so I do plan on weaning myself off. My dr and I have not discussed this yet, as I'm just finishing my 4th month. When I get my last bottle filled, my plan is to go from taking one 37.5mg pill in the am to taking 1/2 of a pill each morning for 2 weeks, then go to 1/2 pill every other morning until the remaining are gone. And then be done. That way getting the phen out of my system is gradual and not a drastic change to my body.

[ipvidual]

THANKS THATS A GOOD IDEA, i should consider doing same. I only have 1 unfilled script for it which is 30 capsules of 40mg. but i need to go to a chemist to pay for them and pick them up first as i still have about 3 or 4 30mg ones left. I think it will be easier to reduce with capsules than with tabs. With capsules you can open them up and see exactly what half is or what 1/4 of a dose is and so on.

HAS ANY1 or does any1 have experience in quitting phen as in reality.

If you have any experience or know roughly how bad withdrawals from phen may be please let me know, i will be glad finding out.

THX ALL, AND ALL THE BEST TO EACH AND EVERY 1 OF U..