Why would you take Phentermine if you only have 20 lbs to lose?

[Jasp]

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[bamawife]

That is a valid question and I have often wondered about it myself.

[ethansmommy23]

a lot of ppl start on phen when they're overweight and then their doctor lets them stay on it to lose the last few vanity lbs.. my doctor lets me know that if my weight starts creeping back up and i need a script for maintenance that she'll give it to me.. i think sometimes it's used as a preventative measure as well.

[ElishaConway]

I think some doctors don't really care, they have a patient that asks for something and they just give it to them. When I was 16 I was probably 10-20 pounds overweight and my doctor prescribed it to me. Looking back he should have never given it to me. Around here it's not hard to get for just about anyone. We also have weight clinics that will giive it to anyone over 21 that is overweight at all.

[MissTris329]

It is totally a valid question, but I'll give you my reasoning, (I would like to me down 30 or so lbs.) Working out and trying to watch what I ate was not really doing anything for me. I take phen because since I feel fuller, it is easier for me to stick with my eating plan of around 1500. I am hoping by the time I get to where I want to be, my new eating style will be so ingrained in me that I can stick with it forever (of course to maintain my weight rather than lose at that point.) As for BMI, I am confused about that because my doctor's scale says I have less than 30% BMI, but at the gym they have the scale that sends a current through your body and figures out BMI and mine there is like 36% which she told me is like one point away from an obese BMI in my age group. SO that is what concerns me and why I use phen to try to help me lose weight.

[alykat06]

My doctor believes that its more than just learning how to diet and exercise that helps us lose weight. He has done many studies that show that those who have constant weight struggles deal with some sort of chemical imbalance; whether it is because the depletion of Serotonin, Norepinephrine, or Dopamine, or an acute allergy to Carbohydrates. He identifies each person's "inner hunger switch" in just minutes with his simple quiz and with the aid of the questionnaire, every dieter knows his "type" of brain chemistry problem, and these problems are easy to correct once you know what they are. In his book he describes exactly how patients and doctors can work together using a program of prescription medication, or how people can work on their own using natural supplements, to achieve weight loss without hunger or feelings of deprivation.The result is a program free of diets, mood swings (the kind that lead to cravings), and patterns of overeating that are rooted in brain chemistry. With "the hunger switch" turned off, people never have to worry about the "tricks" of dieting that are such a dead end -- calorie counting, fat counting, and tests of willpower that lead to the demoralizing frustration of yo-yo dieting.

I have the depletion of Norepinephrine, so without phen I feel tired, weak, unmotivated, have no energy, and the feeling that my stomach is a black hole. I'm 21 years old for crying out loud, I shouldnt have to sleep 14 hours a night to be able to get through a day of work lol. I binge eat like crazy because I never get full, and no amount of frustration about my self perception helps me get motivated, I also get depression symptoms. Unlike many others I dont feel that rush of energy, or lose weight quickly, or get any side affects, this is because it makes me feel like a normal person would. Without phen all I do is gain weight and starve while trying to lose. I can usually maintain but it doesnt last long, some others can lose on thier own and its slow but its still a loss. Well on phen I lose like most others would without phen. Baisically phen increases Norepinephrine so I dont feel so bad, I feel normal. It also helps those with seratonin defficiencies, dopamine, and carb problems. Its also another reason why those who have ADD or ADHD feel so good on phen, because it starightens out those chemical imbalances. My doctor said its unlikely that this will ever go away for me. Everytime I take a break from phen i go back to that tired, lazy, unmotivated, me. He will keep me on low doses of phen to maintain my weight once I get to my goal. You can google him: Dr. Paul Rivas. His research has proven to have a 90+% success rate and its been tested on 10,000+ patients. He has published 3 books and speaks at ceminars around the country, many doctors use his methods. So that is why some are still on phen, you also have to think that even though some may have only 20 lbs to lose, 20 lbs on them could be really bad, any kind of excess weight is bad. My sister is 20 or so lbs to heavy and needs to lose weight because on her small frame it will take a toll on her health. Plus you also have to look at hip vs waist raitio for these people as well. Having 20 lbs of excess stomach fat is high risk for coronary heart problems. You have to trust that thier doctors know what they are doing. At least they are under doctors care and not buying illegal drugs from the internet. I dont blame them for wanting to get healthy, I need to lose my last 25 lbs or so but it only gets harder the closer you get to goal, and some of these ppl have lost a lot of weight on thier own but are prescribed to get those last 20 or so lbs off.

[ElishaConway]

I agree completely with what you're saying. It does drive me crazy when I hear someone complaining because they weigh 130 and wear a size 6. I have never been that small in my adult life and couldn't imagine. Right now I only have 25 pounds to lose but that is because I worked my butt off for the past 9 months and lost 55 pounds. Why mess with your body taking meds when you only have a little to lose.

[rdraga]

I was wondering that too! I won't even ask my primary care doctor for fear she would tell me I am not overweight enough to require prescription medication. What miffs me is the people who do only have 20 pounds to lose when they start, then question why they only lost 7 pounds in one month! Duh, hello, if you only have 20 to lose, you aren't going to lose that 20 in one month! If I weighed 170 (I want to be 150), I would never have even contemplated medication. I think its the doctor's who prescribe it like that who make it harder for us that truly need it, to find one who will. My sister went to a weighloss doctor years ago, weighing 160. He gave her the fen/phen combo!!! My sister at 160 was wearing a size 8, and when she was at 140 she was TINY. So I never understood how a doctor would have ever prescribed it to her in the first place. That doctor is now in prison for illegally writing prescriptions. I guess illegally isn't the word, but writing prescriptions for people who didn't validly need them. It really is frustrating when all I want to be is a size 10, yet people who wear a size 6 are saying they are fat! Of course part of that is my own insecurity!

[waiting2xhale]

I guess arguments can be given for both sides of the debate. However, when I see someone with 20 or so pounds to lose, I do wonder why they are taking it. Personally, I just think that I would put myself at risk for a few pounds. But, I guess everyone has the right to choose.

[sherrypeachy]

Hi, I'm fairly new here, just 1 week into Phen. I only have 20 lbs to lose but would like to explain why I'm taking Phen. I am a lot older, 54 next month, and am in menopause and hypothyroid. I've always been thin, but my weight crept up just this past 1-1/2 years, probably a lot to do with my diagnosis. Watching what I eat and exercising are not getting the weight off, so I'm trying Phen for 90 days. I'm being carefully monitored by my doctor. I'm also a lifetime member at Weight Watchers. Once I get down to my Weight Watchers weight, I'll stop Phen and go back to Weight Watchers. But for right now this is where I feel I need to be. Sorry if maybe this seems vain, but to me it's not, especially at my age. Just wanted to explain my decision....

[rdraga]

Sherry, there are definitely exceptions to everything. Medical conditions are totally different! Plus, like you said, you are a lifetime member of WW. So it isn't as though you aren't doing everything right already. Besides, the older you are, the harder it is to lose. I know this from experience. I am 33 and it comes off so much slower than when I was 21, phen or no phen. I hope I didn't offend you! I think the people we were referring to were the young girls who could lose weight, piece of cake, on their own. My problem isn't so much the girls, I am appalled that a doctor would prescribe it to someone young who has minimal weight to lose without any medical conditions! Granted, like the other girl said, if I thought I could get a quick fix like phen when I only needed to lose 20 lbs and a doctor would prescribe it to me, I would probably do it! For me, phen is helping me with a lifestyle change and I don't expect a quick fix. My program with my doctor will last one year. I am trying to lose the 55 lbs by June, so giving myself nearly 9 months. That is 6 pounds a month. As a previous WW person, I know that this is a reasonable amount. According to my doctor, this is about what one will lose after the first couple of months! So again, sorry if I offended, I didn't mean to. Good luck with your loss!

[danuhdanuh]

Hi ya'all

I think I fit the profile of the the person you guys are referring to. I weigh 144 and I have about 20lbs that I want to lose. All of the women in my family are obese which is common in african-american women. For my height and build suprisingly I am considered obese! I am trying to be preventive and I have exausted all resources besides cosmetic surgery to lose this 20lbs. That is why I take the phentermine. I also carry most of the weight in my midsection. Each persons situation, health and struggles are different and can not be determined by how much a person wants to lose, how a person looks or another persons' perception of them. I know this can be fustrating seeing others that in one's opinion "is fine", but that person's struggles are completely different from another. The best way to channel this confusion is to work on the person in the mirror. YOURSELF. I have learned that being concerned with and comparing myself to others holds back success of my goals.

HAVE A FANTABULOUS DAY!!!

[amber1234]

Hey there!

I want say, for me personally, I started taking phen because I have been eating right, exercising, and I seem to be "stuck" where I am at 19 months after having my 2nd child!

Before giving birth to my 1st, I was 125-130.. the day before I delivered her, I was 180! I worked out, ate healthy, and by the time her 1st b-day came around I was back down to about 135....

fast forward to my 2nd child... 5 yrs later--- I gained about 15 lbs in those 5 yrs, and when I got preggo I was 150. But when I gave birth to him, I was ::yikes:: almost 200!

In the past 19 months, I have managed to get back in the 155-160 range, but thats it!!! I mean yes, I have lost a good amount of weight--but it seems like I am now stuck--- all the workin' out isnt cutting it---- so I feel that taking phen is giving me the extra "boost" I need to get back to where I should be. Mind you, I am only 5'4 so even @ my goal weight of 130--some women my height would consider "fat" . But I know for me, I looked/felt great @ that weight.

[sherrypeachy]

I'm not offended at all, just wanting to state my reasoning. I appreciate hearing what everyone has to say. I forgot to mention in my post earlier that I also take allergy shots. Yesterday I had a reaction to my shot, which has never happened before. I'm exhausted today even though I thought I slept good last night. I wonder if the Phen has worn me out? Any suggestions?

[jordaninoklahoma]

I would like to lose 20-30 lbs. I am right on the cusp between "healthy" and overweight on the BMI charts. I would like to be considered healthy, since I am only 19. People think I'm crazy to be on Phen, but to me its to prevent health problems that my family are dealing with. My parents and I both don't want to see me go through type 2 diabetes like nearly everybody else has in my extended family. I carry all of my weight in my mid section, so I am an apple shape. Many more "apple shapes" than "pear shapes" go on to have diabetes.

I am not taking phen for an "easy way out", but I have put on 20 lbs in 9 months, and my self esteem has taken a toll. I want to look fit and gorgeous for my wedding day next year. The first time I actually looked in the mirror and saw that I had gained a bit of weight, I began to work out 4 x a week, for 30 minutes a time. I shrank my portion sizes, I took the stairs instead of the elevator. I walked at work instead of taking the golf cart around (I work at an apt. complex.) I want to feel better and feel more secure that my health is under control. I'm so young, I have a lot of life to live...I don't want diabetes to take that away. So yesterday I started phen, and we will see how it goes!

[ethansmommy23]

okay first of all phen isn't a magic pill.. it's not an "easy way out." and whether we are 20 or 80 or we have 10 lbs or 100 lbs to lose we've all hit the point of desperation where we've had to swallow our pride and ask for help in this weight loss journey... i commend EVERY last one of u women who r taking the steps to lose the excess lbs whether they be vanity lbs or unhealthy lbs! it is so much easier to nip the problem in the bud when u only have 20 lbs to lose than it is when u have 80 lbs to lose! as long as u are taking ur phen and trying ur best and being monitored by ur physician and it's not affecting ur bp or heart rate then i think it's great! good luck!

[ecksman]

I just got prescribed phentermine and my doctor told me its for short term use only. I only have a two month supply, and after that I am required to take a break for 30 days before starting again.

Phentermine is for anyone who is considered "obese" is what he told me, but I guess anyone can take it. I took my first pill a couple hours ago, and I feel kinda wired. Not hungry tho

[ecksman]

Wholie Crap ethansmommy - AWESOME RESULTS!!! I am so excited to see how this works out for me?!!!! Did you exercise too? What did you do diet wise? How long did it take you to transform?

[Mrsace13]

I often was wondering the same thing or when I'm at WW and they announce someone made lifetime and they come up and they say they have lost 10-20 pounds and here I am needing to lose 70-90 pounds but then I remember when I was 20-30 pounds over weight, I couldn't get it off. I was taking over the counter diet pills and you name it. So when I look at people who only have a small weight to lose, I have to remember it is not a small amount when it is yours.

[Mischieve]

Another problem I think is being over looked is the media. Things have come a long way but they still have a long way to go. Many celebrities who want to lose a few pounds go way overboard, becoming TOO thin, TOO fast. So, people start to think that they should be able to do the same thing. Especially young girls.

Pick up a magazine and look to see what they are saying about certain famous people... how someone has gotten fat when in reality, they are still tiny compared to the rest of us. Brittany Spears, for example, was never huge but the media played it up as tho she was morbidly obese. What kind of message does that send?

[1calimommy4u]

I usually never post on here, mostly just read up to compare my experience. I only have about 20 pounds to lose. But losing 20 pounds is a lot harder for someone who weighs 150 then it is for someone who weighs 200. I am a short person and naturally about 115/120.. the most i have ever been able to lose on my own is about 10 pounds. Also, 150 at my height (5'2 )is not within a healthy bmi rage for me. That puts me over weight. 20 pounds to me is a lot to lose, especially when I have never had that much extra weight on me. Ever hold 20 pounds of potatoes? thats a lot of extra weight on a body frame of someone who is 5'2..

[alykat06]

AlyKat, I would love to read the research that your Dr. has written. I know for a fact that I have a problem with Serotonin. I also have a problem with my hypothalamus. I have other medical issues which include "Cluster Headaches" that they feel are a direct link to both. So it would make sense that there is a direct link to overeating with a chemical imbalance. But how one would address this would be complicated. Serotonin can be address by taking SSRI's but then why are most of the people on them gaining weight and not losing? If weight lost was so simple that one could just adjust their Serotonin levels then we would not need a drug that not only controls appetite but increase metabolism.

Yes it does seem very complicated to get these issues solved. I never heard of most of these issues and I was trying to see what underlying issues I may have had that caused these problems. I was also going to a military clinic and thier solution to everything seemed either too easy or too hard. We did blood work but my dr. didnt get the concept of doing a non-fasting diabetes test so I did a fasting A1C and of course it came out normal, I was trying to see about insulin resistance. I saw an endocronologyst for other possible weight gain problems but no one ever discussed a chemical imbalance. I saw a nutritionist and changed my eating habits, it took a year of not losing weight, yo-yoing because I felt hungry constantly for my dr. to finally prescribe phen. Granted I was also 230 lbs. I still had trouble with always being tired and depressed the dr. suggested I see a phsyciatrist but I had nothing to talk to a phsyciatrist about, I wanted to find an underlying cause for this overwhelming hunger etc. I havent read Dr. Rivas' book but I need to buy one to see more about his research, at this point its probably hard to solve any of these underlying brain chemical problems because maybe not enough doctors consider this a reason for weight gain, maybe it doesnt come to mind, or they just dont know enough about it. There are supplements and foods for the depletion of the N neurotransmitter, so I am hoping once I get to goal that I can take some of these supplements and incorperate these foods so I dont have to stay on phen. I guess weight loss would be a lot more simple if more drs knew how to adjust the N, S, D, and C. Thats what Dr. Rivas does and you dont have to break your back to lose weight. Like you said, the constant working out or undereating wont help you once you come off of phen, thats why Dr. Rivas lets you do it slowly without killing yourself and by eating healthy, yeah you have to stay on phen a bit longer but you will more than likely not need another diet aid again with his 90-95% success rate.

[Sus65]

Sorry Jasp, I disagree. I believe if you have 20 lbs. to lose and cannot take it off through regular diet and exercise, then yeah I wholeheartedly believe taking phen under the care of a doctor is the way to go. I would rather see a person do this than watch that 20 lbs. turn to 30 or 40! Being 20 pounds overweight is not healthy. I am 20 pounds from my goal weight--I sure do feel and look better, but I am not at my healthiest at this weight. I guarantee you it's not "vanity" pounds either. And I can tell you that once I make goal and continue with maintenance if my weight creeps up to more than 6 or 7 pounds and I feel out of control and can't reign myself in I will definately be calling my doctor for a phen script. I never want to go back to being 60 pounds overweight again. BTW, my BP started @ 130/70 (a decent BP) and is now 110/60 (even better).

[nikoletodd]

Well I hope I can shed light on your question by referring you to your own personal quote.

"A smart man learns from his own mistakes......A wise man learns from the mistake of others"

If you look at my stats you see someone who is 5'4 140 lbs and you may say to yourself..."WTH?" But the truth is I have been battling my weight for years and 120 lbs is where I have set my "personal" goal. Both of my parents are obese, my sister is down now but in her battle of the pudge has been obese. My largest was 168 at the delivery of my 2nd son.

I am trying to be the wise man and look at the way I was brought up, the eating habits and genetics I have to contend with. I grew up in New Mexico and my mom is from the south so everything was fried covered in gravy or fried and covered in cheese.

I can't remeber a time in my childhood when my mother wasn't complaining about her weight as she put in Jane Fonda and we did the grapevine. Then rewarded our efforts with a candybar. She would cry and say she was doing the best she could and that if I saw lbs creep up take care of them immediately. DOn't let them get where it had taken her.
So I excercise joined WW and got down to 126. I was so elated I broke my toe dancing around. But I quit nursing and slowly the lbs found me again. I got back to 140 where I have stayed no matter the work out routine if you know what P90X is that's what i was doing 6 days a week and a 1200 cal diet. Nothing. Not a pound not an ounce. After a year I gave up.

I went to my OB for a lump in my breast and discussed in detail my plight. He prescribed Meridia. Uh....those are the big guns! I am willing to put in the work, reduce my caloric intake and work out consistently. You won't be successful on Phen if you don't meet it half way. I liked that and asked if he could change my script to Phen. He did. He gave me a 30 day supply.

It's day 3 of the pill and I feel alive. I fel like I can play with my children be a good wife with energy to spare for a little something something. I have been a sloth. Sleeping 9 hours a night and taking a 2 hour nap with my kids to wake up and still feel drained. Blood work came back normal. Heart rate normal.

I imagine I would feel the same way if there was someone who weighed 120 (my goal) and was complaining about being fat needing to lose 20. You think she doesn't appreciate what she has.

Jasp, I just want to be the best me, the best mom, the best wife, daughter etc I can be. That isn't happening sleeping 11 hours a day. That isn't happening being so focused on my weight I'm missing my childs birthday cake. I don't want my kids to see me the way I saw my mom.

I want to be the wise man.

[bamawife]

I tend to think that for women who are already thin and have to go up a size in clothes it sends them into a tailspin. I also think that the portrayal of celebs and such being so thin hurts women. Just this week I read an article on Victoria Beckham. She was quoted as saying she works out 7 days a week because she wants her body to be perfect for photos. She said she doesn't "need any airbrushing" because of how she looks. If you ask me that woman looks SICK. Unfortunately with younger people, they see figures such as hers and think that is what they should look like. If you google how much various celebs weigh you will be amazed. I haven't found one yet that was over 110 lbs....Personally, I just want to be a healthy weight. I have no health problems other than chronic sinusitis but diabetes runs in my family. I do not want to become a diabetic.

[Sus65]

I have been on this site since late April and I have yet to see anyone on here that has lost an unhealthy amount of weight on phen. Maybe there are lurkers out there that have, but I think the majority of the people who regularly participate are for the most part responsible. Are there some on here that eat crap and keep their calories low and still lose as Jasp pointed out--yeah, but without making lifestyle changes they'll regain what they lost and more. But that's their choice! I know some on here that are taking phen, eat like a bird (very low calorie), don't exercise, and complain they are bone tired--well DUH! They too will regain but that's their choice too! I don't think it's anyone's place to come on here and ***** about people who want to lose 20 pounds. If they are getting their phen from a doctor who is monitoring them and not off the internet then what is that to anyone else? That's my 2 cents.

[Sus65]

Originally Posted by nikoletodd

Well I hope I can shed light on your question by referring you to your own personal quote.

"A smart man learns from his own mistakes......A wise man learns from the mistake of others"

If you look at my stats you see someone who is 5'4 140 lbs and you may say to yourself..."WTH?" But the truth is I have been battling my weight for years and 120 lbs is where I have set my "personal" goal. Both of my parents are obese, my sister is down now but in her battle of the pudge has been obese. My largest was 168 at the delivery of my 2nd son.

I am trying to be the wise man and look at the way I was brought up, the eating habits and genetics I have to contend with. I grew up in New Mexico and my mom is from the south so everything was fried covered in gravy or fried and covered in cheese.

I can't remeber a time in my childhood when my mother wasn't complaining about her weight as she put in Jane Fonda and we did the grapevine. Then rewarded our efforts with a candybar. She would cry and say she was doing the best she could and that if I saw lbs creep up take care of them immediately. DOn't let them get where it had taken her.
So I excercise joined WW and got down to 126. I was so elated I broke my toe dancing around. But I quit nursing and slowly the lbs found me again. I got back to 140 where I have stayed no matter the work out routine if you know what P90X is that's what i was doing 6 days a week and a 1200 cal diet. Nothing. Not a pound not an ounce. After a year I gave up.

I went to my OB for a lump in my breast and discussed in detail my plight. He prescribed Meridia. Uh....those are the big guns! I am willing to put in the work, reduce my caloric intake and work out consistently. You won't be successful on Phen if you don't meet it half way. I liked that and asked if he could change my script to Phen. He did. He gave me a 30 day supply.

It's day 3 of the pill and I feel alive. I fel like I can play with my children be a good wife with energy to spare for a little something something. I have been a sloth. Sleeping 9 hours a night and taking a 2 hour nap with my kids to wake up and still feel drained. Blood work came back normal. Heart rate normal.

I imagine I would feel the same way if there was someone who weighed 120 (my goal) and was complaining about being fat needing to lose 20. You think she doesn't appreciate what she has.

Jasp, I just want to be the best me, the best mom, the best wife, daughter etc I can be. That isn't happening sleeping 11 hours a day. That isn't happening being so focused on my weight I'm missing my childs birthday cake. I don't want my kids to see me the way I saw my mom.

I want to be the wise man.

Nikole, you ARE wise for taking the initiative to lose those 20 pounds to be the healthiest mom, wife, daughter, and friend to yourself! No need to explain yourself--my hat is off to you! You are already off to a great start and I know how great it feels to finally be losing weight when everything you've done before wasn't working (and I had no thryroid issues). Congratulations and I wish you much success on your weight loss journey!

[nikoletodd]

Sus65- Thank you thank you thank you from the bottom of my heart. I really needed to hear some words of encouragement. I was feeling pretty deflated. Mmwah! You are a doll!

Jasp- I hear what you are saying and I respect your opinion and view point. I did read all of the post and I know where you are coming from. This is the very first diet pill (OTC included) I've ever taken. However, I am the yoyo dieter you pegged me for. ATkins, Southbeach, Lifetime WW, Calorie Counter and so on and so on. I'm not someone who looks for attention by saying "oh I'm soo fat. I'm on a diet. I'm going on a diet. I work out constantly and blah blah blah." My husband doesn't even know I'm taking anything. I am very private about my struggles and battles. I don't want to be scary skinny Nicole Ritchie.

I want to feel attractive to myself. I shut down to intimacy because in the faint light I can see my stomach giggle and hang over my panties and that's all i think about. I can't look in the mirror past my chest because I don't want to see the rolls. My son asked for swimming lessons for his birthday and the thought of being in a swimsuit to do the parent day terrifies me.
I refuse to live this way anymore and if a pill that was prescribed by my physician helps me achieve freedom I can't apologize for wanting it and taking it and using it. This pill helps me make better choices with what I eat. I am not starving and craving and denying. I can just enjoy the moments and not focus on the food.

[ethansmommy23]

Originally Posted by Sus65

I have been on this site since late April and I have yet to see anyone on here that has lost an unhealthy amount of weight on phen. Maybe there are lurkers out there that have, but I think the majority of the people who regularly participate are for the most part responsible. Are there some on here that eat crap and keep their calories low and still lose as Jasp pointed out--yeah, but without making lifestyle changes they'll regain what they lost and more. But that's their choice! I know some on here that are taking phen, eat like a bird (very low calorie), don't exercise, and complain they are bone tired--well DUH! They too will regain but that's their choice too! I don't think it's anyone's place to come on here and ***** about people who want to lose 20 pounds. If they are getting their phen from a doctor who is monitoring them and not off the internet then what is that to anyone else? That's my 2 cents.

i COMPLETELY agree!! i will never again let my weight get out of control and if a script of phen is what i need occasionally to get off 5 or 6 lbs that i gain then i think it's way more healthy than being overweight again... my doctor agrees with me and she's the one with the md after her name... that's exactly why i don't say anything to anyone about phen bc it's no one's place to judge me for taking control of my health and my body.

[Sus65]

Right back at ya Nikole! Happy to encourage you. At the end of the day, we are all here because we desperately want to finally win this battle with our weight. I've come to realize that it's a series of battles. There are wins and there are losses--good days and bad. I just want to come to the place that I can have a bad day or two every now and then and not let it turn into several bad weeks, months, or years. I never want my weight to keep me from experiencing the joy of being fully engaged with the people I care about and the life I want to live ever again. I love being able to take pleasure in even the mundane things in life now. Life's too short to waste on being fat and unhappy and stewing in your own juices--that was me! And life's too short to disagree about phen for crying out loud so this is my last post on this thread! I've got better things to focus on.

[Fat Boy]

I have also given it a thought. But what worries me the most is that many online-pharmacies sell phen! This dangerous drug can be ordered by every person, and not many people understand that you have to be obese to take phentermine. I guess this became a real problem with phen popularization. Too many people read good feedbacks about this medicine and think they can lose 10-15 pounds in no time. They don’t even realize how unhealthy it can be and what side effects they can meet. You have money, you can buy anything. It’s a sad reality and we can’t do anything to change it.

[alykat06]

Originally Posted by Fat Boy

I have also given it a thought. But what worries me the most is that many online-pharmacies sell phen! This dangerous drug can be ordered by every person, and not many people understand that you have to be obese to take phentermine. I guess this became a real problem with phen popularization. Too many people read good feedbacks about this medicine and think they can lose 10-15 pounds in no time. They don’t even realize how unhealthy it can be and what side effects they can meet. You have money, you can buy anything. It’s a sad reality and we can’t do anything to change it.

Most online pharmacies do not sell phen BTW, they claim they do, they sell knock-off, fake herbal stuff and get people to spend hundreds of dollars on stuff that doesnt work. They spell phentermine wrong most of the time, thats how they get you. phentramine, phentremin, etc. This is even more dangerous because they could be selling you rat poop or poison for all you know.

[camarocarol]

I need to lose 25 pounds.....and Its because I have triedto get it off without drugs and nothing works,,,,,,,,,i had been on Prozac for 5 months and gained 2 pant sizes,,,Im depressed over how I look,,,for me its unhealthy for me,,I know somethink I dont need to lose any...but I do.Then i read on here where someone posted phen is a dangerous drug...so maybe I dont know enough about it? Why is it dangerous/I take a half of a 37.5 pill daley since nov 4 09,my heart dr prescribed it for me.

[dallasm25]

so i have 20 pounds to lose and its been rough so i have 60 pills of phen and im thinking about takinng them... they work plus i havent gained no weigh back and i been off phen for a couple months. but i feel if you need to lose it with the pill i say go ahead cause im so short and these 20 pounds make me look huge.

[girl09]

the same reason you would keep taking your phen if you were within 20 pounds of your goal weight no matter what your starting weight was.

if you were 200 and want a goal of 140, would you keep taking your phen if you were at 160? if that makes sense.
We are the same in the inside, I just started taking the phen towards the lower end of my weight loss journey.