September/October Phen Starters

**fabulous5** · November 9th, 2009, 01:03 PM

Hello everyone! I just finished my 3rd week and I have lost 15lbs so far. It's such a good feeling to put on jeans that I could not wear a year ago! Keep up the good work everyone!

**3angelsnme** · November 9th, 2009, 02:43 PM

A little frustrated after this weekend, but hanging on strong. Last week I busted my little booty at the gym. I usually go Monday through Friday, cardio everyday. I do weights every Tuesday and Thursday. I gained three pounds over the weekend. It hits hard when you work extremely hard and something like this happens. Now I know why contestants cry on The Biggest Loser, poor things.

**Jay85** · November 12th, 2009, 02:03 PM

3angelsnme It's probably muscle from your weight's, muscle weigh's more then fat and help's to breakdown fat faster. Congrat's your stat's look like your losing !! Don't be discourged

**shoefiend** · November 12th, 2009, 03:11 PM

Hi all!

Fabulous5, Congrats!! 15lbs in 3 weeks is fabulous!! May I ask what diet and exercise plan you are on?

3Angels - Jay 85 is right, dont get frustrated. The 3lbs gained must be muscle you are gaining from the weight lifting. Keep in mind muscle is much leaner (even though it weighs more) than fat and also the more muscle you have the more fat you burn

Have you tried measuring yourself when you do your weigh ins? Sometimes you will see inches lost but no loss (or a gain) on the scale. 11lbs lost is terrific, you need to give yourself a big pat on the back!!

Hope everyone else is doing well! I go in for my end of (1st) month weigh in tomorrow. I am never more excited than when I go to the doc every Friday to see my results. Hope all goes well since TOM is here and I feel slightly bloated

Hope everyone is having a GREAT Thursday!

**fabulous5** · November 12th, 2009, 03:57 PM

This morning I was down another 2lbs, total of 17lbs. Nov. 16 will be a month.

Shoefiend~ Well I drink warm lemon water every morning and take my pill. Then I head to the gym on a empty stomach. I just do cardio for an hour, and I make sure my heart rate is atleast 160 or higher so I know I'm burning calories. Then I sit in the sauna for about 15- 20 minutes. I have 3 bottles of water while I'm there. Then I come home and eat a can of sardines in mustard sauce( I love them). They have protien and only 140 calories. Apple, cottage cheese, salmon, veggies are some of the things I will snack on. Then I eat a little portion of what I ever I make for dinner. And tons of water.

If I get hungry at night I will have popcorn....For now it's working for me. We will see what next month brings. I hope this helps somewhat. What are you doing?

**shoefiend** · November 12th, 2009, 05:16 PM

Fab - We have the same start date, my actual one month is also Nov 16th

As for my routine... I walk 2x per day. After I drop my son off for school I go to the park and walk the track 1.25 miles. Then when hubby gets home I go for another walk about 2.25 to 2.5 miles (5-6 days per week). I also do strength training 3x per week. I drink tons of water, sometimes with lemon. I drink green tea every am with lemon, I think that is as close to drinking warm water as I can get - lol. Oatmeal, eggbeaters, fresh fruits and veggies, fish and other lean protein. For snacks I have almonds, wasa crackers, light string cheese, yogurt. I have a horrible sweet tooth especially around TOM. The phen and chromium pico have drastically reduced it but if I have an occasional urge I keep sugar free jello/pudding and smart ones desserts on hand. Basically for the most part I try to keep my diet high in lean protein, low sodium and good carbs - no bad "white/processed" carbs. It seems to be working so far, most days I feel like I have to make myself eat my 3 meals to get in my 1200 cal.

As for the sardines, I have never tried them... Do you buy them in the mustard sauce or do you make it? I think I read on here somewhere that they have a lot of good nutrients. This maybe a silly question... do they have bones in them? lol - I have a weird thing about eating fish with bones... for some reason it freaks me out:P

**christykoeb21** · November 12th, 2009, 05:30 PM

I have heard that cold water is best to drink in the morning because it gets your metoblisim working faster because your body is working to get the water up to body temp. Plus that's all I can drink I don't like warm water haha.

I am at 153 as of this morning so I hope I can count it on Monday or lower! I want to be in the 140's by Thanksgiving! I didn't get that goal of Halloween but I think i wasnt' being realistic.

I haven't worked out since Saturday ARGH! So hopefully I can do it tomorrow. I'm starting to feel really sluggish again.

**Jimswife** · November 12th, 2009, 05:53 PM

This is my 6th week and I am down a total of 25lbs. Hope to be less than 200 by Thanksgiving.

**fabulous5** · November 12th, 2009, 11:09 PM

Shoefiend~ Sounds like your doing a great job!! Congrats to a good start on this wonderful journey! Yes I buy my sardines in mustard sauce, and yes they have bones lol. But they are very soft you can eat them, or just take it out. They are small. Just try them once and let me know what you think!!!

Christykoeb21~ what I have learned on drinking the warm lemon water in the morning is that the warm water wakes up your digestive system. The sooner you wake it, the sooner your metabolism kicks in: Which is good on many levels. The lemon works like a cleaner. They suggest using purifed, filtered or spring water (with good bacteria, just investigate it's source). Also, it is important to make it warm like body temperature...not hot. But for the rest of the day cold lemon water is great. Hope this helps explain it a little bit. Awesome job on the 23lbs!!

Jimswife~ Your going to meet your second mini goal in no time..... Your doing a great job!

**shoefiend** · November 13th, 2009, 10:22 AM

Fab - Thanks for sharing your tips! I am going to put some of them to good use in my routine. BTW- I have to go grocery shopping today so I will see if I can find those sardines in mustard sauce. Hubby will probably freak and ask if I am preggers - lmao

Christy - Great job! 23 lbs down and only 4 to go to make it to your goal of the 140's by Turkey day - You can do it

Jimswife - Lady you are smokin! I bet you will make it to onderland before Turkey day, the lbs are just falling off

Congrats to all on there hard work and have a Fantastic Friday!!

**christykoeb21** · November 13th, 2009, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by fabulous5

Shoefiend~ Sounds like your doing a great job!! Congrats to a good start on this wonderful journey! Yes I buy my sardines in mustard sauce, and yes they have bones lol. But they are very soft you can eat them, or just take it out. They are small. Just try them once and let me know what you think!!!

Christykoeb21~ what I have learned on drinking the warm lemon water in the morning is that the warm water wakes up your digestive system. The sooner you wake it, the sooner your metabolism kicks in: Which is good on many levels. The lemon works like a cleaner. They suggest using purifed, filtered or spring water (with good bacteria, just investigate it's source). Also, it is important to make it warm like body temperature...not hot. But for the rest of the day cold lemon water is great. Hope this helps explain it a little bit. Awesome job on the 23lbs!!

Jimswife~ Your going to meet your second mini goal in no time..... Your doing a great job!

That does explain a little better thanks! That's interesting about that because I had just always heard its better to drink cold water so it gets the metabolism going. I definitely need to try lemon water though, I've never been a big fan of flavored water because of the taste it leaves in my mouth. I'll have to give it another shot though. Thanks on the congrats. I'm not counting it til Monday though so I'm hoping its more! Well I was 152.8 this morning so it looks like I'm going that direction.

Originally Posted by shoefiend

Fab - Thanks for sharing your tips! I am going to put some of them to good use in my routine. BTW- I have to go grocery shopping today so I will see if I can find those sardines in mustard sauce. Hubby will probably freak and ask if I am preggers - lmao

Christy - Great job! 23 lbs down and only 4 to go to make it to your goal of the 140's by Turkey day - You can do it

Jimswife - Lady you are smokin! I bet you will make it to onderland before Turkey day, the lbs are just falling off

Congrats to all on there hard work and have a Fantastic Friday!!

Thank you!

Like I said above though I'm not counting it til Monday.

I'm surprised I'm losing seeing as how I'm not working out and I'm just eating. I've been cleaning the house, but I haven't broke a sweat or anything. Maybe it's just the change my body needed. I'll start the shred again tomorrow at nap time most likely.

I can't wait to be in the 140's!

**christykoeb21** · November 13th, 2009, 11:24 AM

Ya know I'm a complete blond (that's my natural hair color lol oh and no offense to blonds but I have moments like this a lot so I tease myself). I completely forgot I was already at 23 lbs lost so I thought you all were counting that! DUR Christy! haha. So just ignore me.

**fabulous5** · November 13th, 2009, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by christykoeb21

Ya know I'm a complete blond (that's my natural hair color lol oh and no offense to blonds but I have moments like this a lot so I tease myself). I completely forgot I was already at 23 lbs lost so I thought you all were counting that! DUR Christy! haha. So just ignore me.

lol thats ok I'm blonde and I have my moments all the time! I just wanted to make it clear that it is freah lemons cut up not lemon flavoerd water. I would feel really bad if you were buying flavored lemon water and it was not working for you.

**fabulous5** · November 13th, 2009, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by shoefiend

Fab - Thanks for sharing your tips! I am going to put some of them to good use in my routine. BTW- I have to go grocery shopping today so I will see if I can find those sardines in mustard sauce. Hubby will probably freak and ask if I am preggers - lmao

Christy - Great job! 23 lbs down and only 4 to go to make it to your goal of the 140's by Turkey day - You can do it

Jimswife - Lady you are smokin! I bet you will make it to onderland before Turkey day, the lbs are just falling off

Congrats to all on there hard work and have a Fantastic Friday!!

You buy them in the same place you buy your tuna fish....I added an attachment of a pic of the can they come in. I have never done a attachment before so I hope it works. Tell your hubs they are for him...lol

**rdraga** · November 13th, 2009, 12:40 PM

Just checking in to see how everyone is doing! I went back to the doctor last week and am down another 10 pounds. It seems like my weight loss is not as much as some of you, and although I am jealous, I am happy with the rate in which it is coming off. My doctor advised us (my sister and friend) that at 30 pounds people typically hit a plateau, but will advise us at that time how to work past that. My goal since the last appointment will be 30 lbs of total loss by the end of the year. From that day, I will have 8 weeks to lose another 9 pounds. That is just a little over a pound a week. Obviously I will be ecstatic if its more, but am being realistic as I know the first couple months the weight tends to come off pretty quick and then slows after that.

I hope everyone is doing well and staying motivated! I am happy to see all the big numbers on here! Great job everyone!

**christykoeb21** · November 13th, 2009, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by fabulous5

lol thats ok I'm blonde and I have my moments all the time! I just wanted to make it clear that it is freah lemons cut up not lemon flavoerd water. I would feel really bad if you were buying flavored lemon water and it was not working for you.

So do you just squeeze the lemon juice in the water? I didn't think you meant lemon flavored water (because I had heard of the tip using lemon juice in water).

**shoefiend** · November 13th, 2009, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by fabulous5

You buy them in the same place you buy your tuna fish....I added an attachment of a pic of the can they come in. I have never done a attachment before so I hope it works. Tell your hubs they are for him...lol

Thanks for the pic, it will help alot

Couldn't find them today at the local Wally world, but I was also in a hurry to get done in time to pick up my son from school. I will have to check again the next time I stop at the grocery store.... I am intrigued and also want to gross the hubby out a bit

**shoefiend** · November 13th, 2009, 06:16 PM

Christy your to funny! Ya know I have blond moments like every day and I am a brunette

Anyways on to the lemon water - yes squeeze some fresh lemon juice in the water (dont use the lemon concentrate in the bottle). I usually cut up a couple wedges and squeeze the juice in the water and then throw the wedges themselves in also. But thats just me, I love lemon and the extra vitamin C.

**shoefiend** · November 13th, 2009, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by rdraga

Just checking in to see how everyone is doing! I went back to the doctor last week and am down another 10 pounds. It seems like my weight loss is not as much as some of you, and although I am jealous, I am happy with the rate in which it is coming off. My doctor advised us (my sister and friend) that at 30 pounds people typically hit a plateau, but will advise us at that time how to work past that. My goal since the last appointment will be 30 lbs of total loss by the end of the year. From that day, I will have 8 weeks to lose another 9 pounds. That is just a little over a pound a week. Obviously I will be ecstatic if its more, but am being realistic as I know the first couple months the weight tends to come off pretty quick and then slows after that.

I hope everyone is doing well and staying motivated! I am happy to see all the big numbers on here! Great job everyone!

Yeah!!! Another 10lbs down congrats!!! Great job!!

As for the doc advising you of the plateau people generally hit after losing 30lbs.. Any info he gives you I would love to hear about. In the past I have lost weight and always seem to hit that wall at 30 - 40 lbs lost and then get discouraged and give up

Hence the yo - yo diet lose then gain tons more. Well, it is NOT gonna happen this time. So any advice he gives I would be forever grateful if you share

**Jimswife** · November 13th, 2009, 07:17 PM

I was thinking the same thing about the plateau, because I will be hitting there soon, hopefully, so let us know what your doc says when you get to that point. I will take all of the tips I can get.

**doescookies** · November 16th, 2009, 12:36 PM

Been on phen for 3 wks. I do have a lot more energy and my house is super clean! But that's the only progress I'm seeing. I've gone from 227 to 215. But that was all in the first week. I eat about 1000 calories a day or less, drink so much water I almost get sick of it and again I'm doing more but I'm at a plateau that I've been at for about 2 wks now. I know I need to give it more time but I just am not seeing the results that I prayed for. Any encouragement or thoughts or tips to jump start anymore loss would be so appreciated. Thx for reading.

**christykoeb21** · November 16th, 2009, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by doescookies

Been on phen for 3 wks. I do have a lot more energy and my house is super clean! But that's the only progress I'm seeing. I've gone from 227 to 215. But that was all in the first week. I eat about 1000 calories a day or less, drink so much water I almost get sick of it and again I'm doing more but I'm at a plateau that I've been at for about 2 wks now. I know I need to give it more time but I just am not seeing the results that I prayed for. Any encouragement or thoughts or tips to jump start anymore loss would be so appreciated. Thx for reading.

14lbs is good! I only lost 10lbs my first month! lol.

But anyway try eating more (I know doesn't sound right) But it will trick your body and might get you past that plateau. Your body might be thinking that 1000 is too little calories. Also are you exercising? If not try getting out and doing some brisk walking that might help trick your body also. Basically try doing something or eating something that isn't the norm and see if it helps break your plateau. Sometimes eating that food that is a no no will break it and you'll lose. Just make sure its in moderation and you keep up on your water intake to counter act any sodium you get so you don't retain water. Also are you drinking over 100oz of water I know you say you drink a lot but if you aren't getting over 100 then it might not be enough. I keep some water bottles around (6 to be exact) and it adds up to over 100oz so I just refill them whenever they are empty and keep them in the fridge so I can have cold water or else I won't drink water.

**camarocarol** · November 16th, 2009, 01:24 PM

I started Phen Nov 4th,2009.Im not getting any energy from it, i think if my scales are right i have lost 5 pounds,Im wonder ing if anyone experiences depression on phen.This morning my legs feel week and i have no motivation at all!! I do have constant dizziness had this before the phen,and i have anxiety and take ativan and abilfy,wondering if any one else is on one of these meds,maybe the combo makes the energy not there I dont know,I also feelkinda confused but so need to lose this weight,Any comments

**shoefiend** · November 16th, 2009, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by doescookies

Been on phen for 3 wks. I do have a lot more energy and my house is super clean! But that's the only progress I'm seeing. I've gone from 227 to 215. But that was all in the first week. I eat about 1000 calories a day or less, drink so much water I almost get sick of it and again I'm doing more but I'm at a plateau that I've been at for about 2 wks now. I know I need to give it more time but I just am not seeing the results that I prayed for. Any encouragement or thoughts or tips to jump start anymore loss would be so appreciated. Thx for reading.

14lbs lost is excellent!!!! Great job!!

I agree with Christy, I would up my calories. If you eat too little your body will think you are starving it and in return will hold on to the fat and eat at your muscle. Also agree on the water - make sure to drink at least 1/2 your body weight in water. Watch your sodium intake also - especially in premade foods such as soup or frozen dinners. Find something you enjoy doing - taking a walk, dancing around the house with the music blaring, go rollerblading/skating, etc. Hope this helps

Good luck!

**shoefiend** · November 16th, 2009, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by camarocarol

I started Phen Nov 4th,2009.Im not getting any energy from it, i think if my scales are right i have lost 5 pounds,Im wonder ing if anyone experiences depression on phen.This morning my legs feel week and i have no motivation at all!! I do have constant dizziness had this before the phen,and i have anxiety and take ativan and abilfy,wondering if any one else is on one of these meds,maybe the combo makes the energy not there I dont know,I also feelkinda confused but so need to lose this weight,Any comments

Hi Camarocarol! As for the energy, I have read on the forum that not everyone will get the energy burst or some of the other side effects like dry mouth, sleeplessness, etc. Everyone's body reacts differently to different medications. As for the depression... I have my ups and downs. One minute I am on top of the world and the next minute I am pissed at the world and the next I am crying. I have read some people take a supplement called 5HTP along with the Phen to help with the moodiness. I cant say for myself if I see any changes yet because I just bought some on Sunday and have only just started taking it..... It may or may not help.... You may want to talk to your doctor about the depression and see what he recommends. In reference to the drug combos aitvan and abilify, I would contact your local pharmacy and talk to the pharmacist to make sure the combo of all 3 together is not harmful. Best of luck

**christykoeb21** · November 16th, 2009, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by camarocarol

I started Phen Nov 4th,2009.Im not getting any energy from it, i think if my scales are right i have lost 5 pounds,Im wonder ing if anyone experiences depression on phen.This morning my legs feel week and i have no motivation at all!! I do have constant dizziness had this before the phen,and i have anxiety and take ativan and abilfy,wondering if any one else is on one of these meds,maybe the combo makes the energy not there I dont know,I also feelkinda confused but so need to lose this weight,Any comments

I do not get energy at all it kind of ****s actually! I am surprised I've lost what I've lost. I don't even really get the appetite suppressing like everyone else. I still feel hungry and couldn't just not eat all day like others. I think the only side effect I get is headaches and thats mainly because I got a lot of headaches before for not drinking my water. Also I read that if you take Tylenol (just the acediminiphine sorry can't spell it) it will actually give you headaches if you take it too much and that is me I constantly taking tylenol. So one day when I had a headache I took my last excedrin migrane and my headache went away fast and stayed away as with the tylenol it would just get numb and then come back. - Ok sorry I'm rambling but thats really all I can relate too. I do have my up days and my down days of depression, but I can't say if its related to phen or just my over mood. I have no energy and i think that helps my mood too. So I try to usually does stuff to make myself happy and not think about those down days.

**camarocarol** · November 16th, 2009, 08:07 PM

hi im new ...been on phen since nov 4th starting weight was 159 pounds this morning i weighed naked and my scales said 148 i think they r wrong.today im feeling my heart rate is fast and my chest kinda feels funny.......my heart drput me on these pills as i gained the weight pretty fast in two months went up2 pant sizes and i have high colestral.my question is can phen damage the heart? i have very bad anxiety and take meds for it,the phen does not give me energy asi was told,,,i see u say u dont get energy either,,,im knda scared how my heart feels today but for heath reasons i need to get back down,I know to some im not that heavy but from where i was at 130 up to almost 160 is a jump.i hope u can offer some advice

**MarcusF4** · November 17th, 2009, 01:13 AM

Alright, I went on vacation for 4 days and had to let go. I am still at 190lbs, but those 4 days killed me, we aren't talking about that (lol). I'm back to basics and eating right. I'll get new pics up soon, but not just yet. The improvement shows already, but I want more. Hello everyone and keep up the work.

**doescookies** · November 17th, 2009, 03:00 PM

I just wanted to say thank you to everyone that replied with helpful ideas for me. I love the generous and caring attitudes everyone has and really I'm very thankful for this site and all its members. Just knowing I'm not the only one going thru this really helps me mentally to know that I CAN do this. Again thank you all very very much.

**rdraga** · November 17th, 2009, 06:06 PM

I will let everyone know what the doctor says about getting past the hump. Hopefully, fingers crossed, I will be at 30 pound total loss by my next appointment, but I am realistic, and will be ok with five.

**Jimswife** · November 19th, 2009, 11:03 AM

My weight stayed the same this week. I feel like onederland is toying with me. Actually, I am okay with it. I worked a couple of extra shifts at the hospital this week on nights and it kind of threw my routine off. After staying up all night, I didn't take a couple doses of phen and I have been able to maintain, so not too shabby.

Continued success to everyone.

Shelia

**LeJune** · November 19th, 2009, 11:39 AM

Good morning everyone!!! Doing good. Down to 233 as of this morning. My hubby looked at me shocked. Still having a problem with BM. Going to get Correctol this evening. Only thing is that stuff tears me up but I guess that is a small price to pay. LOL

**Jimswife** · November 19th, 2009, 02:44 PM

I'm taking colon cleanse, that I got at the health food store, very gentle, with no cramping. It is full of fiber.

More people at work are noticing my weightloss, which is nice. I didn't lose weight this week, but down more inches. I can't believe my belly is actually looking smaller. I am using the firming cream twice daily and doing my ab workout daily.

**ktbh8** · November 19th, 2009, 11:53 PM

Hi I'm new - been using phen since Sept 16 and to date have lost 31 lbs...I'm hoping to be able to keep this up - I am worried about developing a tolerance to phen, so I normally just take 1/2 a pill in the afternoon and only every couple days will take a whole pill. does anyone else do this?

Starting weight sept 16th: 205.7
Weight as of Nov 19th: 174.7
Height 5' 3"

Mom of 3 young kids

**joycey** · November 20th, 2009, 01:26 AM

Hello, this is my last month on phen. I have lost 35lbs, and I hope to lose more and keep it off. My doctor told me I could not get a prescription for phen till next year.