[daiseered]

I keep a lot of things to myself on here - when I see questions that have been asked over and over again, and questions like "Should I be drinking water?" or "I'm desperate for phen!! HELP! Where to buy online?"

Ok that's not where I was originally going, but it just came out.

Now, I want to know what freakin legitimate doctor prescribes phen for people who are 100 lbs to control their appetite?? Are you kidding me? Even if you are 4 foot freakin 6 you are normal - are these people dwarfs?

Seriously it pis.ses me off when I see crap like this. Phen isn't an OTC appetite suppressant, it's not supposed to be used unless you are obese - yeah, some of us get it and are only overweight and not obese, but if you're 100 lbs doctors shouldn't be handing out phen.

Ugh. There's my freakin 2 cents.

[alykat06]

I agree! I want to scream when I see the same threads over and over about getting phen online, we make it pretty clear that its a huge health risk! Phen should be for people who need it! Also I think that if your on phen at least change the way you eat and exercise, it helps so much and in the end you want to excersise. I hated it but i got on my bike and did it, now i do it everyday no complaints and no problems. I feel energized when I exercise and I feel I will keep weight off longer. I acctually like it! Also please dont ask after 3 or 4 days why you arent losing weight..it makes me so frustrated that people want to see all the weight come off at once, it didnt get there in 4 days it wont leave in 4 days. ughh...what else gets on my nerves..a girl and her mother whom my family doesnt get along with eat mcdonalds every day, the mother has had gastric bypass twice and her daughter at age 16 was about 270, my sister goes to school with her and she said the girl recieved gastric bypass and still eats mcdonds every day! I cant believe how stupid that is, to think gastric bypass solves all your weight problems...

[TishaO2]

I AGREE!!!!!! If you are that small and your doctor gives you phen then there's a serious problem. Granted I have a stupid doctor too but come on! Mine just gives me the script and says "Eat less and work out more." Literally. That's what he said. Some people just take advantage of it when you have others that truely need it and their docs won't give them the scripts.

[Mommy2Belle]

yes i 100% agree with you. My aunt is 140lbs and her dr STILL gives her Phen she is 5'2 i think her weight should be 120 why does she need Phen to lose 20lbs? She isnt obese. i think thats why most drs dont want to give it out because people like that abuse it. But people who need it cant get it! thats crazy. I wish i only had 20lbs to go and was 140 why would you complain about that? and i read alot about people asking about water. LOL i just laugh you have to drink water they say thats crucial in weight loss.

[MaggieinATL]

VIRTUAL ^5 (high 5)!! Totally agree. It's as crazy as someone gaining 100 lbs to get gastric bypass!

[melissa199]

I totally agree!!! It's weird.. my doctor really didn't want to give me the phen. I had to assure him I was going to do my part with the diet and excersise! and at the time I was 288lbs.. wtf! So if he was hesitant to give ME some... I knew this stuff was strong and not for the 100lb dieter..LOL.

Whatever... people are dumb sometimes!

alykat.... wtf? Mcd's everyday... hmm.. their doctors should punch them in the faces! LOL! But serioulsy thats just not right. I mean some people don't really understand how many calories are in things... and I used to be one of them (pre weight watcher days before 2002) But even I knew Mcd's was bad. There is so much information and liturature out on the net and in books about calories and the horrible effects of fast food, they should rent "Super Size Me" .. such a good documentary on how McD's really effects you if you eat it every day.

[alykat06]

Well its not that they dont know, I am one of those people who get along with everyone but these people are stupid and have some real screws loose. The girl is a year older than my sister and hasnt done anything to the girl, yet her mom is constantly telling her to fight my sister just because my sister is pretty and has all the curves in the right places so of course she gets male attention, and her daughter doesnt. Her mom hosts parties for all the under age kids in the neighborhood. Her mom is no example especially for eating mcdonalds everyday and having gastric bypass 2 times! come on now we all know very well that that is not going to stop the weight from coming back on. Sheesh I wish I could lose the weight with gastric bypass just to get it off of me and keep it off, but im not going to be a lazy *** !!!!

[scatanafas]

I odn't know who you saw that was taking phen at 100 lbs. I know that I started phen at close to 150 lbs and it was definitely too much weight for my small frame. I'm not short, but I have a small frame. the charts all say I should be somewhere around 125 which I am sure will never happen again unless I wire my jaw shut.

I don't understand why it bothers you if someone else is taking phen and they don't have what you consider a legitimate amount of weight to lose. That is up to their doctor, it is his medical license that is up for grabs when he makes a decision and he is the person making and the reason why he pays malpractice insurance. It doens't take a whole lot of weight to be considered clinically obese by the way.....

I can only speak for me, I got my phen the legitimate way from a medical weight loss center and I was prepared for the doctor to send me on my way without any phen but he saw that even though I was working out and eating relatively well I could not lose the last of the weight and needed some help and I'm glad that he did. the little weight that I did lose has made a BIG difference in how I look and feel....I still have a ways to go and i'm doing it without phen...but even if I were doing it with phen I don't think it is anyone's place to judge me.

Just my two cents, I don't mean any disrespect.

[daiseered]

This girl is .2 points away from being underweight and she's on phen. THAT I don't think means she is clinically obese. I know BMI charts are just a reference and don't apply to everyone, but I don't see any way someone who is relatively near being underweight got prescribed a weight loss drug.

If I judged people by the fact that they took phen obviously I wouldn't be here. I love that we all are getting healthier and everything, but taking phen when you're already almost underweight does NOT seem healthy.

[scatanafas]

Well there are alot of people out there donig alot of things that are not healthy but I don't sit there and worry about them. I have my own life to lead and better things to do than get annoyed becasue someone skinny is taking phen. You should use your energy for better things and focus on your own journey.

[Lady Shazerz]

I am sitting on the fence here. There are people out there who NEED phen and then get it and want the pill to be 'magic'. Then there are people who are only 25 lbs overweight and are TRYING to lose the weight and just can't. I don't have a problem with them having it. I would rather THEY have it than the OBESE person who is expecting it to be a magical pill.

Sure there are people who abuse it, but that is with everything. That's like someone coming on here and posting "If you are 250lbs and eating a cheeseburger,it's gonna make you fatter?" WELL DUH!! But Most people who are overweight abuse food. Does that make it ok? Should they take food away from fat people because they shouldn't have it? Isn't it thier choice what they do to lose or gain weight?? Just like it's your choice to lose with a pill?

BUT, the abuse is what will make it harder to get too. So, hence the reason I sit on the fence.

Yes, there should be some regulation, yes this person who is underweight should not be taking it but if someone wants to lose 10lbs and CAN'T, no matter how hard they try then I don't have a problem with it personally...I'm just thankful that I CAN get it and that I have a Dr. that isn't willing to prescribe it to someone who doesn't need it and that he gave me more instruction than 'excerisize more and eat less'.

K, my .02. I'm ready for change.

[scatanafas]

Well like I said, I just worry about me and my situation and don't judge others. Of course I genuinely care about others that are struggling, but I'm not the Queen of the Forest that I need to be worrying about phen and making it a socialist issue......There are plenty on it and people are getting it legitmately and illegally...those that get it illegally claim that they can't find a doctor to prescribe it, but then later on admit that the medical weight loss centers are expensive and they want a cheaper way of getting it. We all need to eat less and work out more to make this phen thing work no matter what our size.....but let me tell you first hand that if you continue to be successful you will be down to that last twenty lbs. and it becomes WAY WAY harder to lose...then what? Will you become one of the people that you yourself abhor? Or give up phen as a way of making a political statement? Maybe when you get to that point (IF you get there) you should come back here and re-read this thread and decide how you feel then.