[Nikki finn]

Everyone on here has so much knowledge and i am soooo in the dark!

What is a B12 shot and what is it for while on phen?

Exercise... is it safe when on phen? I am used to an hour cardio and a half of weights... but in these past three days i havent gone cause im afraid to pump up my heart rate... any exercise that isnt straining but still helps with results?

How about caffiene intake? i want to have it cause i start to crash from the phentermine around 2. Can i jump kick myself back without effects?

I would ask the doc but i swear they never answer the phone!

[Krissy8581]

Well I know that exercise is safe and I think it gives me that extra push to workout harder! My doctor told me caffiene is ok but not alot, i just have 1 large one in the morning and im good. And I take another half tablet of phen at about 2 to keep me going but not up all night. But im sure caffiene would be fine too. Hope that helps a little. Thats all I got! Oh-yeah, good luck!!!!

[MissDevon]

b12 is for a little extra energy kick that some of us needs sometimes.

[Mushy]

how long have you been on phen..?? i didnt do much of anything for the first three weeks i was on phen..and my schedule at work was horrors so i really couldnt get to the gym anyway. and it continued to be bad for me at work with scheduleing for about six months(long story about me doing three peoples work yadd yadda) now its february things are slowing down because i friggen rock at my work and im an over achiever ......oh .......sorry got on my self appriciation kick..... i do that alot cause nobody else will ..... but aaaannnnnyyyy whooooo ive just started back to the gym and i have noticed a couple things.

my moods have leveled off
i sleep better
i am more motivated to keep going.

i mean i hate hate hate going to the gym. im not a very social animal. and i wont even go near the weights as long as there are people there that can see me fumble around with them but i would wait until you feel evened out with the phen then head back. just enjoy the time off .. maybe walk a bit.. if you feel you must do something but take it easy.

[dianicole]

From what my doc told me, the B12 shot is supposed to be a metablosim booster/enhancer.
She doesnt give them, because she doesnt think its nescassary. But I know some doctors do. It all depends on what type of program you are doing, and the type of diet you would be on with the phen. Look at it this way, you can buy B12 supplements in lots of different forms at any GNC or walgreens. So try it out and see how it makes you feel.
I have to cups of coffee every day. I try to space it out from like 6am to noon. It doesnt make as jittery as you might think it would, with taking pills. But then again I work out after having that first cup of coffee so I dont notice it too much. But, whenI do have that second cup at or around 11 ( i totally sip) It does give me that extra kick..

[bizymomma]

I had high blood pressure in the beginning so my doc told me TO exercise!! Your heart is a muscle and working it only makes it stronger - since starting an aggressive workout routine my BP has gone down !!! I too drink coffee (but my doc said not to) but gradually Im weening myself LOL hope this has helped - the point of my post was WORKOUT girl, sweat hard, make your body sore lol its a great feeling knowing your not just sitting around waiting for your weight to come off and it sounds like your body is already accustomed to working (1 hr cardio )out so you should be good

[Blitz7277]

Vitamin B-12, it is a necessary vitamin but does not occur naturally in the body .....with that being said, most people do not have enough of it in their daily diet. If you add an anorexic agent like phentermine to the mix, it exascerbates the problem. It is commonly called cyanocobalamin (pardon my spelling). it prevents certain types of anemia (pernicious anemia, those who have that, cannot convert B-12 to a useful form from food). anyhow, it can give extra energy and that is typically the laymans touted reasoning, but really, they don't want us all to suddenly become psychotic and crazed because we are nutritionally deficient. So if you are given them by your MD, that is a great thing. If you aren't, either boost up your diet in foods rich in it, or ask your MD about it.

Caffeine-not good on phen, it tends to already bring up blood pressure and pulse therfore it is best to lay off if you can. If you can't and are an avid coffee drinker, have one cup per day to avoid withdrawals and ween yourself off (you'll be happy you did anyhow).

Exercise is dependent upon how high your BP/pulse gets when you are on phen and what your caloric intake has been. If you are like me and have only been taking in like 400 calories a day and then go running for 5 miles, you'll pass out at some point, so don't do that. What you indicated, 30 min cardio and 30 min strength training sounds great. just don't over do it at first. As you move further into your program, you may be able to increase exercise and diet. But don't toast yourself.

Good luck on your journey.

[bizymomma]

Blitz- Your MD put you on a 400 calorie diet, being only 190 I would think it would be higher????

[bizymomma]

I was curious myself so I did a lil research and I found this on health network:

How many calories do I need?

If you do not have access to a metabolic measurement, you can use an equation to estimate your basic calories. The most accurate one is the Mifflin-St. Joer equation. Weight in pounds must be converted to kilograms by dividing weight in pounds by 2.2. Height must be changed to centimeters by multiplying inches by 2.54. Plug your height and weight into the basic equation:

9.99 x weight + 6.25 x height - 4.92 x age.

Men then add 5; women subtract 161.

The total is your approximate calories per day for resting metabolic rate. The RMR for a 40-year-old man who weighs 190 lbs and is 6'1" is 1800 calories per day. A 25-year-old woman who is 5'6" and 140 pounds has a basic calorie requirement of 1380. Because the equation is not completely accurate, real RMR may be slightly lower or higher.

In addition to the RMR calories, each person needs additional calories for daily activities and exercise. A sedentary person will need fewer calories than an active person.

According to this equation a healthy amount of calories for myself at 177 lbs 5'4" and 31 years old is 1668 calories a day - I do try to keep it down to 1200, but I couldnt imagine 400 calories or less, I wouldnt even have the energy to pick up my water bottle.........

[Blitz7277]

This is my plan.
First 3 days, 10oz of lean protein only (skinless chicken breast, seafood, fish.....)
Lots of water and that is it. Plus you are just starting the phen and appetite isn't there to eat too much.
After 3 days (or ketosis) you incorporate 4 servings of vegetables and still your 10oz of lean protein. You can add 2 servings of fruit, but it has to be on the low glycemic list like blueberries, cherries, 1 orange etc. No bananas or anything starchy.
When you meet your goal weight you increase your caloric intake until you "break even" and gain a pound or two. This is the point in which YOUR body needs calories to function. If you are heavy on exercise he has you increase your protein and vegetable intake.

I did the program for 5 weeks over the summer and dropped 25lbs, gained 3 back for the following 6 mos (not bad through the holidays) and since I started back up, I'm down 5.8lbs this past week and 2.5% body fat. That body fat is really important.
I also use spark people . com and I track all the food I put in my mouth...everything and I average between 350 calories on the days I work the night shift (because I go home and sleep through breakfast and lunch) to my high was 759 and that was abnormal. I don't feel hungry, I don't feel tired, I feel really good actually. When I'm hungry, I eat, I just eat what he has approved me to eat.
This is by the largest weight loss clinic in the Tampa Bay area, you can google Dr. Jay Garcia or Cesar Lara and you'll find links to their pages. They also provide supplements calcium pyruvate (which aids in the conversion of sugar to energy in the Krebs cycle of metabolism) and a multivitamin and B-12 injections. I'm so happy with how this has been going.

[Blitz7277]

Okay....just want to share with you what I ate today so you can see...and today was a high day, 981 calories.
turkey burger patty with 1 slice of cheese chopped up with lettuce and one slice of tomato and 2 slices of bacon
7oz of stirfried chicken with a tsp of pesto sauce drizzled over it
6 pieces of tortellini (spinach)
1 cup of broccoli and cheese.

Totals-981 calories, 38 carbs, 52 grams of fat and 88 grams of protein.

This is a bit more than I normally eat but all this talk of food and calories made me hungry and when my hubby got home I couldn't help it. AND I usually drink 24oz of water before eating and didn't this time. Soooo that is how I'm doing it. I'm getting ready next week to keep my calories at this level and slowly get back to my running. I love running and now I have 6lbs less to push those 5 miles. My goal just so you all know is to run the Disney marathon next January which qualifies for the Boston Marathon. I CAN do this.

[Nikki finn]

Thanks for the answers! Today i had my phentermine before my coffee and then had to rush off to my daughters doctor and i felt fine. I think today was the most active i was and my asthma kicked a little so i used my proventil.

I was at the pharmacy getting my daughter her prescription, with only a handful of almonds in my stomach when i started with the pain in the shoulder, a little numbess in my right shoulder and arm, accompanied by the tingle. They had one of those blood pressure machines and figured i would take my dizzy *** over to it. And tada, 148/97 - how not cool and the i tried it again in 5 and was feeling worse and i was at 157/94. I was scared sh***less, you get the point. It just kept getting worse!

I actually drove over to the ER parking lot and sat there with my kiddo in the car waiting for it to pass. But sadly, it got worse.. chest pain and breathing. So, I ended up in the ER with a battery of test. Once the phen wore off i started feeling better and so tired i could have slept in the bathroom. It was such a bad experience and i think switching the pill before my coffee was a bad idea whereas before i had my two cups two hours before the pill. I think I want to switch to just the phenD, which is the 35mg pill i take at night. I feel noraml on that one and it doesnt make me feel high and dizzy.... does the phenD work just as well on its on a few times a day?

Moral of this story - caff and too much movin isn't so well in the begining