HCG Injections..15 pound loss in ONE wk, can this be????

**RedDiamond** · March 17th, 2009, 05:54 PM

Hello Ladies,

My husband and I are on our second day of gorging. I really must say I don't know if it is a mental thing or the HCG but I am so not hungry. I have tried to gorge and beleive me I can't finish a half a rack of ribs. If anyone feels like me then the 500 calories will be a breeze.

MO-Chic - Once you finished your round while you were maintaining did you use the phen to help you maintain your appetite?

**ASU89** · March 17th, 2009, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by alykat06

OK, so I want to do this! Now the thing is that I go to germany in May, I would probably have to start the injections by the beggining of April after tom..well I would be going to germany May 21 and that means I dont have a way to eat normally since a lot of their foods are carb-oriented and I will not be a bad guest to my grandmother by being picky on what needs to be eaten. So I figure I need to stop the injections 3 weeks before Germany so I can get back into a normal eating routine...That would mean I only have a month to do injections..so I should do a 20 day round correct? I am just trying to make sure I get the rules right...ok so another Q I have that I saw mentioned in the transcript is not taking any medications or allowed makeup..I can deal with no makeup..I dont wear much neways..but medicines are crucial here..I have high blood pressure that I take medicine for, acid reflux, asthma/allergies..is it ok to still take my meds?

The makeup rule, I'm not following. They just don't want your makeup to not have oil in it.
You should do a 23 day round, not 20.
"Drugs. ALL non-prescription, over-the-counter, and prescription drugs and medications of every kind absolutely, 100%, are proven to lead to weight gain and obesity. All non-prescription, over-the-counter, and prescription medications and drugs absolutely, 100%, cause illness and disease. This is proven."
Keep taking the meds you need, but nothing else.

**ASU89** · March 17th, 2009, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by RedDiamond

Hello Ladies,

My husband and I are on our second day of gorging. I really must say I don't know if it is a mental thing or the HCG but I am so not hungry. I have tried to gorge and beleive me I can't finish a half a rack of ribs. If anyone feels like me then the 500 calories will be a breeze.

MO-Chic - Once you finished your round while you were maintaining did you use the phen to help you maintain your appetite?

Wow! You got your husband to join you? Congrats that is amazing. But girl, you NEED TO EAT. You have to make yourself. That is a common error people make. Even if you can't eat the ribs or whatever in one sitting, try again 30 or 45 minutes later. This will keep you from being hungry the first few weeks of protocol. If you are worried about gaining weight, DON'T BE. I gained 2.2 lbs from gorging and lost 2.6 the first day on the diet.... seriously... go get a donut or something for me LOL!

**alykat06** · March 17th, 2009, 06:34 PM

Ok thanks! So you think I will be fine for when I go to Germany then, hopefully i can be used to eating normally again. My boyfriend is also considering doing this with me..yay. I am going to order tonight I believe ..should I buy how much you bought ASU? Then just save the rest for after germany? Or should I just buy 1 ampule?

**ASU89** · March 17th, 2009, 06:46 PM

If you plan on doing it as soon as you get back from Germany, I would just buy as much as I did and save the rest for when you get back. It will probably save you in shipping cost anyways. If your boyfriend plans on doing it, only buy extra HCG, all the supplies will be enough for you both to do two 23 day rounds.
Don't forget to go to Walmart to get alcohol swabs!

**imgoonadoit** · March 17th, 2009, 06:46 PM

Ok, another question...If you have over 25 pounds to lose do you HAVE to stay on it 43 days or can you break it up?

Originally Posted by alykat06

Ok thanks! So you think I will be fine for when I go to Germany then, hopefully i can be used to eating normally again. My boyfriend is also considering doing this with me..yay. I am going to order tonight I believe ..should I buy how much you bought ASU? Then just save the rest for after germany? Or should I just buy 1 ampule?

**ASU89** · March 17th, 2009, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by imgoonadoit

Ok, another question...If you have over 25 pounds to lose do you HAVE to stay on it 43 days or can you break it up?

You can either do a 23 day round, or a 40 day round. It really depends whichever you choose to do. If you have a lot of weight to lose, I would suggest doing 40 day rounds until you only have about 10 pounds to lose, then do a 23 day round.
If someone has 100 lbs to lose, it would make more sense to do two 40 day rounds and one 23 day round, rather than five 23 day rounds.

**alykat06** · March 17th, 2009, 06:59 PM

So how much on average does a person lose on a 23 day round with exercise?

**imgoonadoit** · March 17th, 2009, 07:08 PM

40 days, do you get bored eating the same foods or do you take phen with it?

**ASU89** · March 17th, 2009, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by alykat06

So how much on average does a person lose on a 23 day round with exercise?

I believe average is 10-20 lbs with the 23 day round. Since you don't have an extreme amount to lose, you will probably lose between 10-15.

Originally Posted by imgoonadoit

40 days, do you get bored eating the same foods or do you take phen with it?

Yes, I probably will get bored with eating the same foods for 40 days (since I am very particular with my veggies and meat), but if I am seeing great results, I will just force myself. It's only 40 days.
I am not taking Phen with it. You certainly can, but I chose not to.

**alykat06** · March 17th, 2009, 07:48 PM

Wow I have been reading a lot and man I never realized how much stuff I use during my regular routine..I forgot about the fact that I have to wear lotion for my rash that breaks out on my arms (keratosis pilaris) so my doc prescribed vanicream, dermatologist formula so that they would go away..now I have to check if I can use it ughh..I baught everything tonight and hopefully get everything just in time after TOM comes and goes. I guess my biggest problem is going to be food and what in the heck to eat and not eat. I mean I dont like seafood..I can tolerate crab but not without butter or in crab cake form..same with shrimp..I like chicken and beef but I love turkey..turkey is lean right, its almost like chicken but healthier..why doesnt it say we can have turkey? Can you girls give me ideas of what your eating? I dont think I could manage eating lettuce without something on it..yuck..

**ASU89** · March 17th, 2009, 07:55 PM

Honestly, I wouldn't worry too much about the cream. If you need it, I am sure it is not going to effect your over all total. You should be getting your package within a week or so!!! Since I am only on day 3 right now with the 500 calorie diet, I am just being very basic with it for now until I go to the grocery store this weekend. But here is what I do.
Breakfast - diet lipton green tea. i drink about 2 bottles. i will also get a medium iced coffee with a little bit of non-fat milk and cinnamon.
Mid morning snack - 1/2 a grapefruit
Lunch - 100 grams of chicken breast, 1 Melba toast, 2 whole celery sticks
Mid evening snack - apple
Dinner - 15 shrimp, 1/4 of a cucumber, 1 Melba toast

**alykat06** · March 17th, 2009, 08:04 PM

Thanks for all the info ASU, I know i have like a million questions and its much easier to understand it from another person than from a book lol. I might stay on phen for a little bit in the beggining of the injections, are you still on phen? Well I know I will need more help once the stuff arrives and I start everything..for now I am going to plan on getting my meal choices prepared and figure out what I am going to eat lol.

**ASU89** · March 17th, 2009, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by alykat06

Thanks for all the info ASU, I know i have like a million questions and its much easier to understand it from another person than from a book lol. I might stay on phen for a little bit in the beggining of the injections, are you still on phen? Well I know I will need more help once the stuff arrives and I start everything..for now I am going to plan on getting my meal choices prepared and figure out what I am going to eat lol.

I got off Phen a week before I started HCG. Phen wasn't really suppressing my appetite anymore. If you find any tasty meals, definitely share!!!
Also, Aly.. I know you are doing low carb/high protein.... But for the first 2 days, please please gorge. That is a very common mistake people make. They diet previously, and don't want to gain the weight that they had just lost. But trust me when I say you will lose what you gained within the first 24 hours.

**alykat06** · March 17th, 2009, 09:11 PM

Yeah I read that, I plan on gorging even though I have ingrained my new habits into my brain like a tattoo..but I will for sure gorge since I absolutely wont be allowing a lot of things into my deit once I start..usually even on low carb I allow myself some french fries etc..but I will make sure to have all those things before starting..believe me I love food haha, I have read some stuff about people who dont gorge the first 2 days and cant make it through the first week cuz they are soo hungry and weak. I am probably going to stay on phen because even after all these months on it, it still really helps with my appetite..when I am hungry I get ravenous and nothing fills me up..so hopefully the combonation of HCG and phen will boost my metabolism, keep me from being ravenous, and help me lose more weight before germany lol.

**Oshun** · March 17th, 2009, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by ASU89

The makeup rule, I'm not following. They just don't want your makeup to not have oil in it.
You should do a 23 day round, not 20.
"Drugs. ALL non-prescription, over-the-counter, and prescription drugs and medications of every kind absolutely, 100%, are proven to lead to weight gain and obesity. All non-prescription, over-the-counter, and prescription medications and drugs absolutely, 100%, cause illness and disease. This is proven."
Keep taking the meds you need, but nothing else.

Ok ASU, is that quote serious? All OTC drugs cause weight gain???

**Oshun** · March 17th, 2009, 09:20 PM

I have finally narrowed down my cosmetics.

I am going to use ayurvedic herbs for cleansing and hair care and the mineral stone instead of dove. I have decided on aloe for moisturizing and baking soda to brush my teeth. So far I have eliminated all oils and glycerine. I had no idea how many products use oil and glycerine in them.

I glanced over some of the diet materials and I have decided to get the stevia and the yerba mate.

Which stevia is better herbal form of powdered form?

**Oshun** · March 17th, 2009, 09:28 PM

Thank you MO for the information about the needles and storage. I was wondering how would anyone mix this everyday.

I have decided to go ahead and accept the needles from my relative. They still look long as I don't know what.

I have some other questions.

1. How are you guys measuring your food?

2. For those who have lost weight does this target the undesirable areas (tummy) or do you lose it in sheets (all over)? My weight is concentrated in my abdomen and the times I have lost weight I am a smaller person with a big abdomen still. So I was hoping that this would target this area to give me better proportions.

**alykat06** · March 17th, 2009, 09:28 PM

Hey ASU could you give me any info on how HCG helps with getting pregnant..a friend is considering doing it because she is trying to get pregnant and I saw something about it being beneficial for those who were getting pregnant but cant find much about it.

**ASU89** · March 17th, 2009, 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by Oshun

Ok ASU, is that quote serious? All OTC drugs cause weight gain???

That was a quote from the book, "The Weight Loss Cure What They Don't Want You to Know About."

Originally Posted by Oshun

1. How are you guys measuring your food?

2. For those who have lost weight does this target the undesirable areas (tummy) or do you lose it in sheets (all over)? My weight is concentrated in my abdomen and the times I have lost weight I am a smaller person with a big abdomen still. So I was hoping that this would target this area to give me better proportions.

As of right now, I am just eyeballing the 100 grams, but I will be buying a kitchen scale at Walmart this weekend for less than $10. So I suggest you looking into getting a kitchen scale.
Oh girl, you really really need to read the book and manuscript beforehand lol. HCG is all about targeting your abnormal fat, or your tough to get area. The book talks about exactly what you said, people go on fad diets, lose weight, but still have problem areas. This is what HCG targets - your abnormal fat.

Originally Posted by alykat06

Hey ASU could you give me any info on how HCG helps with getting pregnant..a friend is considering doing it because she is trying to get pregnant and I saw something about it being beneficial for those who were getting pregnant but cant find much about it.

I honestly do not know much about how it helps pregnancy. All I know is that it does. Women who are trying to conceive take it in very large doses at once, 5,000-10,000 units of it. I am unsure how often it is taken. But the generic name for HCG is Pregnyl.
"HCG Pregnyl is a popular medicine that is regularly prescribed to female patients as part of a regimen that is supposed to induce:

- Ovulation induction in subfertility that is usually triggered by impaired follicle-ripening or by anovulation. Luteal phase support.

- Follicle preparation for puncture in controlled ovarian hyperstimulation programs (this usually occurs in the case of medically assisted reproductive methods and techniques)."

**guada** · March 17th, 2009, 10:24 PM

Ok really stupid question, I have a kitchen scale it weighs in ozs, how do I figure out grams?? Or is that a totally different scale?

**ASU89** · March 17th, 2009, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by guada

Ok really stupid question, I have a kitchen scale it weighs in ozs, how do I figure out grams?? Or is that a totally different scale?

For every 1 ounce, it is 28.3 grams.... so all you need is a little less than 4 ounces.

**guada** · March 17th, 2009, 10:48 PM

OHHHH. Thanks, you are so smart!!
Ok I decided to do this. I am ordering tomorrow A.M. ! I am sure I will need losts of help at first to figure it all out!

**MO-chic** · March 17th, 2009, 11:36 PM

OMG!!! I havent been on all day cuz I took my kids to the Tulsa Zoo and I have a years worth of posts to catch up on!!!

ASU- It is not Kevin Trudeau's book I was talking about Its the HCG WEIGHT LOSS CURE GUIDE BY LINDA PRINSTER. Kevins book makes it so much more difficult than it really needs to be and I dont think it has everything the other book has. This book is short, sweet and is amaizingly helpful.

RED- Durring my maitainance phase I fluctuated with in the 2lb range and never had a bit of trouble. I tried eating similar to the hcg diet, just more. Because it is essencial to have at least 1500 cals a day since your body is used to using so many cals of fat with the hcg. I couldnt believe how easy it was. But I kept a close watch.

ALY- Im glad you have decided to do this. I can tell you, in case you didnt catch it earlier that because the hcg is pulling the fat back into you blood as food, your body is being fed even if you eat NOTHING. I have insulin problems too, diagnosed with Metibolic Syndrom and polycistic ovarian syndrom. And I can tell you that I have had no problems with the 500 cal diet. If you do the Maintainance phase correctly after every round, there is little to no chance that you will gain back. This whole process is changing the way your body matabalizes food and store fat. The Phen is obsolite with hcg. You would also be supprised to see how much food 500 cals really is, when you pick the right foods. I have a hard time getting it all down.

Some one asked me earlier if I took phen for my maintainance phase? The answer is NO. I havent taken phen in about 4 years. I didnt need it in that phase anyway. I could not eat near as much as I did before I started. It was almost like my body had already adjusted to matabalizing differently, since I didnt gain back and I was getting full much easier. I LOVE IT.

TEX- I wondered where you had been. My thoughts on your delema??? Well, because you were being more active you would think that you woud need to eat more, but I think that your body makes up for that with the hcg. I think that if you had stayed with the 500 cals, your body would have made up the difference by pulling more fat. For someone like me who is not very active right now, due to my largeness, I think the hcg makes my body use less fat cals than it would in a very active person. The book says that it will use between 2500 to 4000 cals of fat a day. I think that you were getting to the higher range by doing more excercise but then added more food. So all in all try the 500 strict this week and see what happends. And let me know if you are still hungry. Im not saying that on the hcg your NEVER hungry. I mean you get a little hungry but then get full fast and are satisfied for a long time before you feel the tini twinge of hunger come back. I have been able to go most day with only one meal and not feel like I need to eat a lot.

**alykat06** · March 17th, 2009, 11:48 PM

Thanks for all the info Mo, I guess my concern is gaining it back once I go to germany, but by that time I should be introducing starches and sugars again, have you done that? I know it will hard to avoid with all the carb and sugar rich foods, I plan on having phen with me to help make sure I dont crave any of the foods, but with my grandma trying to shove food down my throat its a different story.. I plan on making sure my meals are small there and having small portions as well as doing a lot of exercise sight seeing etc. I also plan on continuing exercise on this plan..I love exercising since it makes me more energetic. You say it makes phen obsolete but it still revs up your nervous system, so it should only increase my metabolism that much more..so it should increase my loss. I have lost 45 lbs on phen, it couldnt hurt to try.

**ASU89** · March 17th, 2009, 11:59 PM

Originally Posted by MO-chic

OMG!!! I havent been on all day cuz I took my kids to the Tulsa Zoo and I have a years worth of posts to catch up on!!!

ASU- It is not Kevin Trudeau's book I was talking about Its the HCG WEIGHT LOSS CURE GUIDE BY LINDA PRINSTER. Kevins book makes it so much more difficult than it really needs to be and I dont think it has everything the other book has. This book is short, sweet and is amaizingly helpful.

I have been reading the book for a few days, I like it a lot! I have to order Dr Simeons book online, because they didn't have it at the book store. I have just been reading the manuscript. But I am really enjoying Kevin's book so far. I will look into Linda Prinster's book as well. The more info I have, the better.

**MO-chic** · March 18th, 2009, 12:31 AM

ASU-I agree. It never hurts to have more info. I just think he makes it more complicated, with the whole organic thing. Not that organic isnt good. But for people that need a simple change at first and then ease their way into a healthier life style I think its good to just stick to the basics. And as we've seen, ( my husband and I) it still works with out going totally organic. The changes Ive made is, using stevia instead of splenda which we did a bit of research on that and they say that with any sweetener besides stevia, it will actuallly keep you from losing. Stevia is all natual and it tastes good so Im happy with that. OH we also started using MIRACAL NOODLES. They are noodles made from the root of Konjac. They come in all kinds of noodles and some of the people from my moms forum say they have lost more weight since eating them. They also have been using small amounts of coconut oil on the 500 cal diet and say the same about it. The noodles are like total fiber, no carbs or sugar. They take on the flavor of what ever you put them in and it helps with the creativity of making meals. They also have a Konjac powder that you can use for a thickener ( a tini pinch will do) or what I have done is powdered my chicken breasts with it and seasoning and fried it in a tablespoon of coconut oil and its really good. Just so you know, when I did that I actually lost 2 lbs the next day. I was leery about using the oil on phase 2 but its been fine. And there are tons of health benifits from coconut oil.

ALY- no problem. I just think that if you can avoid using a meth based drug then by all means do it, but I know we all need help sometimes depending on our situation and surroundings. Do what you think you have to but I think you will be more than pleased with the hcg. Who knows by the time your on your maitainance phase you wont need that extra push. How long did you say you were going to be in Germany? If you gain much just come back and get on hcg again.

**alykat06** · March 18th, 2009, 12:40 AM

I'll be in germany for 2 weeks, and I understand your concern for phen just as I have concerns for HCG, and even though its rumored as a meth based drug..its not..it acts like it but its not speed or meth..I know that if hcg works well I will probably stop phen since hopefully i will be at goal weight anyways.

**ASU89** · March 18th, 2009, 12:44 AM

Do you use the liquid Stevia or powder? I'm going to buy it online right now. Also, the noodles.... do they taste like noodles?
About Kevin's book and the organic stuff - yeah it may be a lot at once, but I honestly do not think I ever want to eat other food again! Haha! I know that would never happen, but what he says about how they put so many crazy things into meat to make us fatter pisses me off as well as grosses me out!

**MO-chic** · March 18th, 2009, 01:39 AM

ALY- I totally know what your talking about. I hated the way the phen made me feel. I love that I feel totally normal on it. I do have more energy but that may be from the weight loss.

ASU- I use both. I have the little packets for sweetening tea or coffee. I use it on fruit or pretty much anything that I want a litlle sweet. I got some flavored liquid stevia for making my own pop and flavoring my water. I got some milk chocolate and mango and english toffee. I put a full dropper of chocolate and a half a dropper of the english toffee in my one liter bottle of water. It is soooo good. The mango kind tastes more like cotton candy to me but you dont need much of that one. They have root beer and orange and all different flavors. If you get some carbonated water you can make pop. The noodles are fine, it takes a little getting use to. They dont have much flavor unless you put them in something with flavor. They kindof remind me of the silver noodles you can get at tai resturaunts.
Oh I know what you mean by the crap they put in our food. Im lucky enough to live on a lot of land and I have considered raising my own food. Beef, chicken, eggs, pork (if I will be able to ever eat pork again) and a huge veggie garden.

**alykat06** · March 18th, 2009, 01:42 AM

Well I am glad you found something that works, everyone is different on phen, I have had no issues with it at all..it makes me feel like a normal person lol, usually I feel so tired and exausted without phen..

**Vixena99** · March 18th, 2009, 01:53 AM

ASU89. I just want you to know that I am watching you! lol I mean if you do as well as you predict your goals to do in the rounds then I am gonna give this a shot in June. I am prefectly fine right now with my "METH" or whatever people want to call it. It's legal and it's prescribed and it's working....but I know I will not always have the phen so maybe this summer if I still am not to my goal weight I might give this HCG protocall a shot. I have no doubt that it works. But I am most interseted to see how you do on it because you are not to far from your Original goal weight now, and then your new HCG goal weight is even lower. If you get to that goal..... I am on the band wagon! Good luck girl I am in your corner! And everyone else I also with you good luck with any choice of weight loss you decide to do. This is not an easy road.....we are all struggling, lets all support each other! Spreading the love!

**Vixena99** · March 18th, 2009, 01:57 AM

Oh and FYI....I wouldn't be able to do this until mid summer anyway because then hubby will be deployed....and trust me.....There is no way I could do a 500 diet or any kind of strict diet where I only eat certain foods for so many days......at least not when I have an eating machine living everyday with me. He will deploy for like 6 months starting in July so then and only then could I do it anyway......so the timing just works out good that you are planning on being done with your round 2 by then.

**MO-chic** · March 18th, 2009, 02:13 AM

EASY there VIX I wasnt trying to be nasty.

**Vixena99** · March 18th, 2009, 02:24 AM

Well I apologize if I took that post wrong......it seemed to me you were on a Phen forum bashing phen. I think it's great that you are shareing your progress and excitment and helping others by shareing your info and sucess....thats a really awesome thing. But you have to look at from the other side of things when you say things like " I just think that if you can avoid using a meth based drug then by all means do it" kind of makes it sound like you are a phen hater on a phen forum. If you did half as much reseach on phentermine, you would know that it is not a "meth" based drug.