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Old February 19th, 2007, 07:17 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Hmmm...think I'll pass on that one.

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Old February 19th, 2007, 07:23 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Dude. They censored s u c k s. Wow. I mean it wasn't even being used in that sense. That really s u c k s!
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Old February 19th, 2007, 07:33 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Haha! Can't offend any virgin eyes out there with harsh language like ****s.

I think I'm going to order Dr. Natura right now. Seriously, by the time it arrives, I'll be done with the other one anyway.

I'll tell my husband about it tomorrow. Ha! He's interested in trying it too...wants for me to be the guinea pig.
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Old February 19th, 2007, 08:06 PM   #39 (permalink)
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yeah i was on something like that a while ago, and you had to take the pills and then the powder an hr later, and then at night you had to drink tea. It got old fat, and i dont uise it NO MOE. to much dran work and i always for got to take the tea at night
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Old February 19th, 2007, 08:07 PM   #40 (permalink)
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IT GOT OLD FAAAAAAST NOT FAAAAAAAAT gosh no wonder i did so bad in typing class.
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Old February 19th, 2007, 10:19 PM   #41 (permalink)
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I am new to this site but I am SO EXCITED I found it! I used Dr.Natura's system for the full 90 days and it CHANGED MY LIFE! I wish I could stay on it FOREVER! Let me give you some advise. I researched cleansing for more than 6 months before I did it. This system is far above any other, but I found it really works best when you follow their diet recommendations...

"Is there an appropriate diet for the Colonix and/or Toxinout programs?"

"Although no particular diet is needed for these programs to work, eating healthy foods is always a good idea. A diet containing plenty of organic fruits, vegetables, whole grains, legumes, nuts and seeds complements this program very well. Try to avoid or minimize red meats, cured meats, organ meats, refined foods, canned foods, sugar, salt, saturated fats, coffee, alcohol, food additives, colorings and preservatives, as well as nicotine while cleansing."

I'm not sure you will see the amazing results if you add it to peanut butter or chocolate shakes. It will taste better!!! But the idea is to pull all that sticky junk out of you. Also, concerning when to take your meds, let me tell you in my experience, taking the fiber early and my meds a few hours later worked the best. I usually went to the bathroom an hour or so after I had taken the fiber and if I had already taken my meds, they were flushed away too. If I waited, my meds stayed in and worked later. Well just one mom's thoughts and experience. If you have any questions just give me a shout.
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Old February 20th, 2007, 04:48 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Okay I just took my first dose...the fiber wasn't BAD per se, but I dunno if I can drink it plain for 60 days. I think on the site they have recipes that you can make, by adding juice or fresh fruit and make it into a smoothie, right? I'm gonna go check. Also I'm not gonna be able to take 4 of those pills at once, I'm wondering if I can open them up and put them on some apple sauce...
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Old February 20th, 2007, 04:50 AM   #43 (permalink)
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acagirl - you said you had amazing results...what does that mean actually? Like you felt super clean? Gross stuff came out? You lost weight? Just curious!!! I'm so glad we have people on here that have done this, and that are doing it now - I don't feel so alone! lol
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Old February 20th, 2007, 06:47 AM   #44 (permalink)
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Ok everyone im going to order the Dr. Natura today I really hope its worth the money. I am so backed up I havent pooped in alittle over a week I have been taking a stool softner for the last 4 days (8 in total) and nothing yet I feel so bloated and tierd I really have to do something the softner are NOT working. My doctor told me this is 1 of the side effects but I didnt know it would be the worst effect...I hope when im done with the Dr.Natura I dont go right back to being clogged...We will see..Hopefully I get it soon..
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Old February 20th, 2007, 07:01 AM   #45 (permalink)
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I went with the 2 day shipping and got it fast...it seems UPS ground can take a while, and I didn't want to wait!!
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Old February 20th, 2007, 08:33 AM   #46 (permalink)
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This forum is going better than I expected. I still have not ordered as I was waiting to see what results people are actually having. Has anyone that started it lost any weight or had any gruesome movements? I guess the person that has been using it for a few days is Amanda. Amanda, any news yet? I think the site says it takes about 9 days to get working. My biggest fear is having to see some weird things in the toliet or stopping up the toliet....I am going to give in and get it today when I get from work as the site is blocked on my work computer. I am still trying to decide if I should buy the toxin and the colon cleaner.
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Old February 20th, 2007, 09:42 AM   #47 (permalink)
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I think it is different for each people...the site said some people see "results" in 24 hours, some 2-3 weeks. I dunno what "results" are exactly, but I hope I see SOMETHING in less thatn three weeks or I'll be in trouble LOL
I have nothing to report myself. Then again its only been 4 and a half hours. I'm impatient. I have however already had 9 glasses of water/tea and am floating away. Wheeeeeee!
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Old February 20th, 2007, 03:08 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Well my story is this(sorry in advance for the graphic contents but if it helps just 1)...

I have been off and on Phen for almost 10 years. I am not overweight now, but I am SCARED TO DEATH to go back! My lowest weight has been 118 lbs a few months ago, my current weight is 128 lbs. My highest weight after my first child was about 210 lbs. Everytime I go off the meds I gain, my hunger begins to take over no matter how good my habits are. The Phen began not working and because of the Yo-Yo my body has been on the last few years my digestive track gave up. Despite all my efforts, laxatives, fiber, water, prunes, perscriptions, flushes, you name it I tried it, I still couldn't go for almost 3 WEEKS! I went to my doc and she said "oh that sounds really painful, have you tried prune juice" I thought my husband was going to punch her! Well I took my health back into my own hands and started the search.

I finally settled on Dr.Natura and prayed it would help because I was in PAIN. I started it on a Wednesday and felt even more bloated. I thought whatever was blocked was now making all this fiber backup, but on day 3 a 3 foot rubbery plug thing unfolded in my toilet. I closed my eyes and flushed!!!The next month was heaven! I went 3-4 times a day regular. I don't think I have done that since diapers. I lost 7 lbs the first week and I only weighed 135 lbs so that was a lot for me. Over the next month I dropped a total of 12 lbs and at the end of the 90 days I weighed 118 lbs! I have never been that weight as an adult. I actually woke up in the morning and looked forward to my fiber and bug pills! Headaches were GONE, no more craming in my belly and it was FLAT AS A BOARD, my meds began working again, and I actually slept a full 8 hours every night NEVER waking up. I have not done that since I began taking Phen Fen in 1997. I have never in my life felt so good.

I ended the first of November and since then we had Thanksgiving & Christmas and I ate JUNK, I had dental work done in Jan. and had to take strong antibiotics for an infection I got after. I had to take antibiotics again for a sinus infection at the beginning of Feb and I feel all that weighing me down again. After feeling so good, I can tell the difference and want better. I am still much more regular then I ever was but I can't wait until the 6 months so I can go on it again and this time I will do the Toxin Out as well. I can't speak highly enough about this product. I saw such an amazing change! I am actually looking into becoming a rep for the stuff since I believe so strongly in the benefits. If I can give anyone a few suggestions here they are...

Take your fiber with ORGANIC Apple Juice - Head to Trader Joe's and
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Old February 20th, 2007, 03:47 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Sorry it cut off the rest of my post so here it is


Take your fiber with ORGANIC Apple Juice - Head to Trader Joe's and grab a few. Apple juice is the BEST supportive flush for your intestines and you want organic otherwise what is the point of cleaning out if you are going to put preservatives & junk right back in.

Lay off the meat or at least stick with chicken and fish -It's very hard on your digestive track and the system works the best at removing the old buildup if it's not trying to rid itself of te heavy stuff you a currently eating.

Try to minimize dairy - Many people have allergies or resistance and don't even know it. Plus it is another hard thing for your system to process. If you can swith to rice milk and keep the other to a minimum for the duration you will see better results.

Eat a ton of fruit and veggies. Broccoli is one of the most complete veggies for your body!

Drink half your weight in ounces of water. This means if you weigh 200 lbs you need to drink 100 ounces of water. This really should happen after the colon flush too. I know we have all heard to drink 8 glasses but if we think about it, the heavier we are the more water we need to help with the flushing of toxins and fat.

Eat healthy whole grains - Go for whole wheat pasta, long grain rice, EZEKIEL 4:9 BREAD!!!!!
You can get it at almost any grocery store or trader joe's. This has become my way of life. I eat 2 in the morning and 2 at night. It is a major aid in digestion.

I'm sure exercise would be a good one to write but I can't write that as personal experience. I used to workout 6 days a week but since my second child was born a few years ago it has been MIA! She is such a handful and she has worn me out before I even get out of bed.

Let the tea bag set longer if you can handle it - At first I only did it for the 3-4 minutes but I noticed it not being as effective. I then let it sit for 10 minutes and the wheels began turning again.

TAKE YOUR PHEN AFTER YOUR FIBER AND MORNING PILLS.- You will start to notice, or at least I did my body began to make its own schedule. I started getting up a little earlier and I went to the bathroom 1-2 hours after I got up. If I took my Phen and then my fiber I would flush it out the first time I went to the bathroom and would be hungry all day. If I took my fiber it would fill me up so I wasn't hungry, then I went to the bathroom about an hour later, and then an hour after that I would take my Phen. It lasted longer in the day that way too.

This of course is just my trial and error experience, but it worked wonders for me! If anyone has any more questions for me, shoot. If you are thinking about trying it drop me a line because as I said, I am thinking about becoming a rep and I will give you a discount and online you can only get a better price if you buy quantity. My family and friends only wanted to try a month to see how it went before jumping in and buying 3 months but they had to pay full price. If I become a rep I can offer the lower price on any order and I am not looking at this to make money, I just love it, buy it, and recommend it to EVERYONE!

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Old February 20th, 2007, 06:33 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Hi everyone! I have definitely noticed a difference in my bathroom patterns. This morning I awoke with my normal stomach cramping but was able to go right to the bathroom and go, not to be gross but if felt like I let go of a ton. It wasnt anything crazy but I felt so much lighter. I have been stuck on a weight plateau for about 2 weeks now (at 154 or so) and this morning I woke up and was at 152. I dunno why, but I have a funny feeling this thing is working. I will keep everyone posted. I cant wait to see something major, I'm with Dove I am just too impatient.

aca- I got your PM, I dont know what to do! I cant bear to drink it plain, I just cant do it. It is definitely making my bowels move, how bad do you think it will affect my results? Thank you so much for all your insight, we all definitely need it!
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Old February 20th, 2007, 06:46 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Just wanted you guys to know I got this response from Dr Natura, in regards to the pills and mixing the fiber - I'll be mixing mine with some water, half an orange, some blue berries and ice tomorrow!

Thank you for your email. Yes, you can open the Paranil capsules and mix the herbs with applesauce or juice.

There are some recipes for the fiber customers have tried, but you'd have to search through the testimonials. Basically, you can mix the fiber with any fruit or fruit juice. I've even heard of someone mixing it with peanut butter and chocolate milk. You could mix the fiber with a protein shake. However, you may not get all the benefits of the protein shake. The fiber turns into a gel and any medications or vitamins supplements are suggested to be taken at least two hours after the fiber. This may apply also for the nutrients in your protein shake.

I've found that if you mix the fiber with some room temperature water first, before adding cold liquids, that will cut down on the lumps.
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Old February 20th, 2007, 06:49 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Hi, Its me again! Well I just called Dr. Natura and they said it was okay to mix honey in your tea, that it wold be just as effective. Thank goodness cause I couldnt do it any other way. They also said that you shouldnt drink more than the recommended 64oz of water. If you do the fiber will not have the gripping action to get the stuff off of the walls of you intestines. So just thought I wold let everyone know what I found out! Happy Cleaning
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Old February 20th, 2007, 07:05 PM   #53 (permalink)
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ACAGIRL are you sure you are not a rep already?Lots of information here. If not when are you going to become one? You are already mentioning a discount...
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Old February 20th, 2007, 08:00 PM   #54 (permalink)
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Oh no!! You can only drink 64 oz of water??? I've been drinking almost double that since taking phen because I have such dry mouth. NOOOOO!
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Hi Everyone,

Newmommyfl - Thanks for the update, they told me different on the honey, different rep, different answer I guess. On the water issue, that advice did not come from them but a very wise local internalist. I drank half my body weight and I don't think that stuff could have pulled any harder. I think if it did I would have been turned inside out. LOL Thanks so much for the update! New info is always good.

MsDanielleNJ - Nope not a rep yet but if I get 3 or more people from here interested I will because I will place my 2nd order for myself & my hubby & the friends & family will make up the minimum order I would need to place. Let me know anyone out there if you might be interested and i will get it started ASAP. If money weren't so tight still from the holidays I would.

Great to hear all the success!

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Dovelette I dank more water, for me if I didn't I would have had a very hard time flushing the stuff through my system. I have spent hundreds of hours researching ways to be as healthy as possible. This half your weight in water formula is supported by some of the leading health experts in a wide variety of fields from Naturalists to Oncologists but that is a whole new topic. Good luck!
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Old February 21st, 2007, 05:06 AM   #57 (permalink)
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Okay so this morning I had an orange and 1/4 c of blue berries and about 1/2 c of water, stuck it in my bullet blender with 1/2 scoop of the fiber, and YUM! I think calorie wise it was only 100 for the fruit and whatever for the fiber.
SO here is a question...I had asked about protein powder and they said it would be a waste since we dont' absorb it since it's pushed through...does that mean any calories I eat a hour before and an hour after don't count too? Lol that would be great!
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Old February 21st, 2007, 01:12 PM   #58 (permalink)
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I mixed my fiber with a half cup of warm water so that it would dissolve, then added some grape juice and it was pretty good. It is still not YUM but it is definitely not that bad. I hope we dont absorb any of those calories, that would be great.
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Old February 22nd, 2007, 06:40 AM   #59 (permalink)
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Well mine was shipped yesterday and it wont be here till the 27th Ohhhh... I wanted to but didnt pay for the quick delivery figured 5 days wont kill me..but really would love to start ASAP..please everyone keep keeping us updated im so excited to hear the results of everyone..Not to be gross or anything just hope its worth the money..
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I know you all seem to be very interested in this and some of you have had great results on it, but I finally decided to check out the site a little and I had to shut it off! Weren't you scared about all the freaky stuff that comes out? I'm not trying to be childish here at all, but all that freaked me out so bad! Of course I want my body to be healthy, but I'm scared as H*** to do it!
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is it safe to do with phen?? do you husy just do colonex or the t one too??
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Yeah the freaky stuff scared me but then again, I'd rather have it OUT of me than IN me!!! And not everyone has crazy stuff coming out either.

Yes its safe to do with phen, just take your phen 1-2 hrs before or after you take the fiber. I'm actually finding that challenging, cause if I take the fiber around 8, I can't take phen til 10 and then because I like to split them up, I can't take the second half of the pill til 2, and then I can't sleep. I'm thinking I need to get up at 6 30, take the phen, do fiber at 8 and eat, then do phen again at 10. ha ha phen again at 10. I'm so funny. Can you tell I'm on phen?? Oh lord I'm tired. I seriously can't sleep.
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I ordered my Dr. N earlier this week...will be here on Monday the 26th. CAN'T WAIT! I just got the Colonix 1 month supply...figured that I'd see how things were going, and if by the third week I was happy with what was going on internally I'd order another month's worth.

Dovelette, I'm with you...I'd rather have it out of me than in. It freaked me out the first time I saw it, but at the same time, those pictures make you want to get it out.

The knock off brand internal cleanse I got at Wal-Mart isn't all its cracked up to be. I go #2 about once a day, a little more "fluid" than normal BM, but nothing major. I mean, I lost 6 pounds this past week, but I don't think that it can be attributed to this product.

I'll be starting Dr. N right around my 4 week mark, so I hope it helps me jump start month 2 on Phen.


Thanks so much, MSDanielleNJ, for bringing this topic up.
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Old February 22nd, 2007, 11:20 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Hi - I don't post on the main boards much anymore but I had to put my 2 cents in on this one. I have been using the Dr. Natura system for almost a year now. I initially started with just the Colonix system including the Paranil (used the Paranil for a month). And, yes, you will see nasty stuff. I have continued to use the Colonix fiber and the tea at least three days a week. Everything works the way it should now.

Since I've been using it awhile, I have tried all kinds of ways to blend it so that it doesn't taste bad. You do get used to it though. My favorite way is to mix it in the blender in the morning with orange juice, other low-carb, low-sugar, fruit juices, and whey powder, then drink a really big glass of water after. Somehow the whey powder takes away the grittiness.

My husband has had psoriasis on his ankle and knee for YEARS. After about three months of using Colonix - completely gone. As for me, this is probably one you'll never read in the testimonials online - my eyes are hazel with brown around the pupils. One day when I was getting my hair done, my stylist, who has known me for 12 years or so, said to me "where did all the brown in your eyes go?" I hadn't really paid much attention to it before, but I checked in the mirror and he was right! I now have hardly any brown around the pupils of my eyes and they are much clearer hazel than ever before. Guess toxins show up in your eyes too! Who would have figured that one!
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Old February 23rd, 2007, 06:37 AM   #65 (permalink)
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My doctor told me that there si no evidence that it helps, i want to try . .what are your results guys??
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Old February 23rd, 2007, 10:57 AM   #66 (permalink)
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Ok ive been doing alot of web surfing and there is sooo many mixed feelings on this subject--But im still going to since I ordered it and will be here in a few days..if nothing else I just need to GO...the Phen is making me so backed up I have never been like this in my whole life. If I cant take care of this problam I might have to stop taking Phen..Hope not..

Anyways Im not sure if I can list other sites but I will and if its against some rule just please let me know. But since we are all thinking about it I have been looking around and here are a couple of sites to take a look at. Just FYI ..

www.healthypages.net
go to forums and type in Dr.natura.....

www.quackwatch.com

Good Reading everyone let me know what you think.....
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I don't see where you are seeing Dr. Natura on quackwatch...
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Here's my thoughts on the subject...I don't see how it could hurt, personally, for me. I mean, there are just as many sites out there that talk about the terrible things about phen as there are those like this one that discuss the positive effects.

Same goes for Dr. Natura and other cleansing products.

Or birth control. Or vitamins. Or freaking Kool-Aid, you know?

Before this post, I have never really been exposed to the topic of colon cleansing, and like the website said, its kind of a taboo topic. But it makes sense to me. I mean, think about all of the processed foods that we eat. Especially as kids and teenagers...I mean, America is now regaining its consciousness concerning health and food and fitness it seems...but in the 70's and 80's, everything that I grew up on was processed, unhealthy food. Hot dogs, mac and cheese, pop tarts, processed cheese...

I think about 32 years of build up of eating processed and otherwise "questionable" foods and beverages (alcoholic and non-alcoholic) that I've consumed in my lifetime. Back in high school, eating three day old pizza, in college, eating whatever wasn't moldy and drinking everything in sight, on vacations, on camping trips, on wild nights out with the girls......and I want to flush my system. I want a clean start. Literally and figuratively.

And the colonix program on Dr. Natura looks to me, after reading page after page of testimonials, and the posts on this site, and others about it, it seems to really work. If it doesn't...then its worth the money to try. Heck, I've spent more money in a bar in half a night you know?

Even if you don't crap out alien monster poops of unidentifiable freaky matter...it still cleanses the system and removes all of those icky toxins, right?

Although I respect most doctors and adhere to their advice for the most part, I feel that a lot of mainstream doc's feel threatened by any thinking that is outside of their box. Plus, they probably don't know a lot about it, and don't want to actively acknowledge that it works for fear of being sued if something goes wrong.

I'm so looking forward to getting mine on Monday. More so that I was excited about starting the Phen. I don't want to bore everyone to death with what it does for me, but I plan on keeping a log of what I take, what comes out, my overall feelings, weight loss or gain, etc. I won't post all of the details here, but PM me if you want to be updated on my progress with the Dr. N.
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Okay guys, I'm getting frusterated. I started on Tuesday, and so far I've found myself more constipated than before I started. I get no cramps with the Keri tea, and my weight loss has stalled. I'm finding myself a lot hungerier too. Now that may be because I've only been on phen for a couple weeks and I'm getting to that point where my body adjusts. But I don't take my phen until 2 hours after the fiber...I don't know. I'm just frusterated and not sure what I should do at this point. I"m thinking maybe I should take 1/2 my phen 2 hours before the fiber, then the fiber, then 3 hours after take the other half.
I think I'm being impatient, some people didn't see anything happen for 2 or 3 weeks. I'm ok with that, but I am upset that I'm not losing (actually gained 1.5 lbs). GRR!
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From what I read on the other forum. if you are feeling constipated and no cramps that is actually from 2 different things.
1) the bloating is from your fiber---make sure to drink enough water RIGHT AWAY after so the fiber doesnt thicken up inside you. And you need some cramping to move things along...It says to seep your tea longer instead of 2-3 mins try it for 4-5 mins. Some people have to seep the tea for 15-20 the longer it soaks the stronger it gets--but if you start having diarrhea cut back on the time..

Just keep going stick with it..and keep us posted.
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