Phen, CLA and Green Tea.... IT WORKS!!!

[glandenpi]

Hey guys! Ok, for the questions...

I take my phen when I wake up with a bottle of water. Later when I eat I take my CLA and Green tea pills. The first time I took them without eating... not a good idea! I felt pretty sick to my stomach. But when I did eat it went away. My CLA is 1000mg/pill. I take 2 when I eat first, and two more with dinner. I also take 2- 315mg green tea with the CLA... 2X a day.

They seem to be boosting my weight loss, and I haven't had any side effects at all. (Except the first sick feeling)

I hope I asnwered your questions!

-Venessa

[joggrri]

Ok, here is what I have been up to..... (by the way, congrat to everyone with weight lose)

On 9/4 I started taking the CLA. I started the green tea pills 9/9. I didnt take the phen on the 8,9,10th and the green tea worked very well on there own. I started back with phen on 11th and they worked amazingly well together. I have had an awesome week. Lost 3 pounds after being plataeued for 2 or 3 weeks.
I take my phen first thing in the morning (6:30 am)eat cereal w/milk and banana about 7am and then vitamin/supplements about 7:30am. This includes 2 CLA, 1 flax seed oil, 1 green tea, 1 multi vitamin for women, 1 calcuim and every other day I add 2 stool softners. I eat a small lunch at noon followed with round 2 of the vitamin/supplement routine at about 12:45pm. This includes 2 CLA, 1 green tea, 1 flax seed oil. After dinner I take one more flax seed oil. That amounts to:
1 37.5 phen
4 CLA
2 Green Tea
3 Flax seed oil
1 calcuim
1 multi vitamin
2 stool softners (ever other day)
I really have no idea what the CLA is doing for me, I am giving it 1 month.....
I highly recommend the green tea. Like Vanessa, I am not a Dr by no means but I can tell the difference when I use it. I only have 7 more lbs to lose and unfortunely only 1 tablet phen left. I am gonna use the green tea to finish out my weight lose and then maybe switch to the green tea (drink) for maintenence.
I have no side effects to report about the green tea pills but I do get a little butterfly stomach with the CLA. It doesnt last long but it isnt a good feeling.
I might add I drink a full glass of water with the phen and a full glass of water with the vitamin/supplements. I took a 64 oz bottle of water with me to work every day this week and drank all of it. I figure after the 64 oz plus what I drink to swallow all those pills I can have all the dt soda I want.....(oh yeah, I have a cup of coffee in the morning too)
I bought 3 fitness magazines this week and they all rave about CLA. I absolutely love FITNESS magazine. This is the 2nd issue of it I have bought.
For everyone who is taking these supplements, lets keep posting here and helping each other. I like this thread. If anyone has advise...etc... please give your input. I would like to hear about the results of taking CLA because I am really not sure what to expect. I hope it is gonna shrink my pot belly. hehehhehe...oh well, a girl can dream.

[thelace]

Right. I've just received in post CLA and Green Tea tabs. I'm going to take 2 CLA and 2 Green Tea twice a day after my meals.

I eat 2 meals a day as, when I ate breakfast, I ate too much later in the day. I know we're 'supposed' to eat breakfast and studies show people who eat breakfast lose more weight blah blah, but I KNOW - for ME, that is not the case.

I've lost 10 pounds in a month. Not the phenominal amounts some do here, but I am sticking to 1200 cals a day and about 3 pints water (UK pints are bigger than US!). I should really drink more than that, but I do find it so hard.

This thread is great. Let's keep it going and check in with our updates on CLA/Green Tea progress.

[glandenpi]

Jog- You sound like your doing great! Congratulations! For me, I had been eating very healthy, and was very proud of myself until.... yesterday my husband and daughter were dying for pizza! I guess they're getting sick of the health thing lol. Anyway I slipped and had 2 pieces! I hate that feeling of defeat! Oh well, I'll get back to it today! I'm hoping it won't hurt my progress because my reunion is on the 30th of this month! You know domino's doesn't have a cal count on the box! LOL. Anyway, still taking all my supplements and going to kick it back in gear today. Oh and I wanted to tell everyone about the best snack I've found! The 100 Calorie oreos are awesome! Occasionally I get a sweet tooth that won't go away, and those really hit the spot. If anyone has any suggestions on good food or snacks, I'd appreciate the ideas! I'm getting bored with the same old things...

Ok- good luck you guys! Keep us posted!

-Venessa

[blugreen1117]

From what everyone is saying, maybe I should have started with the green tea first. It seems to work well for everyone. But, I did get the CLA yesterday and I took two with lunch. Didn't have any side effects or notice anything different. Hopefully, it's doing something on the "inside!" I do have a question though. Anyone ever noticed sleep disturbance with CLA? I didn't read anywhere that it caused that, but I didn't sleep at all last night. I do take the Phen, I have been past that side effect with it, I've been sleeping like a baby all week, but after taking the CLA yesterday I was up all night. Just wondering if anyone else has ever had this problem. By the way, I will be going to get the Green Tea pills TODAY, since they sound great! I was going to wait and see how the CLA work first, but think i changed my mind....
Good Luck Everyone and keep posting!
Cary

[no-im-not-pregnant]

Gladenpi~ I love the 100 calorie snacks... my favorites are the oreo and the chips ahoy. Other low cal foods that I have found satisfying are the South Beach bars... they have a chocolate chip/ peanut butter bar that is to die for. The Weight Watchers snack cakes are good too... I have the carrot cake and the chocolate cake with chocolate icing. Yeah, they usually hit the spot at only 80 calories. I don't know if you have a Tropical Smoothie in your area, but they have a huge smoothie called the Blue Lagoon (it has fresh blueberrys, bananas, and strawberries in it)... if you make it with Splenda its only 130 Calories. Its awesome. Outside of that, its the standard stuff ~ salads, bbq chicken breast, soup, etc. I am not big into gourmet eating ~ I am a plain Jane kinda girl!

I look forward to maybe reading about everyone else's favorite foods! We might want to start a thread on it, so it doesn't take over this one... I will get it going!

Melinda

[thelace]

I took 2 of CLA and 2 Green Tea tabs after lunch. 3 hours later I am still feeling 'jittery' and my stomach feels like a small mouse is running around in it.

I do not like this feeling. Is it the Green Tea, or the CLA causing it? I see no caffeine listed on either ingredients, but the green tea tabs just say "Green Tea Extract" - which means there could be caffeine in that I suppose.

I will have to drop whichever one is giving me the jitters.

[blueberry]

Thelace - It is definitely the green tea. Green tea has caffiene. CLA is only safflower oil. That is why I bought de-caff green tea.

[blugreen1117]

I wanted to try to find the de-caf green tea too. At Walmart I couldn't find one that said "de-caf" on it. Does it say it in plain site on the bottle?

[thelace]

Thanks blueberry. Tonight, I will just take the CLA , after dinner.

I hope the CLA will do something, on it's own, but I do not want this feeling again. It's not worth it.

Re Decaff Green Tea. I'm sure I read somewhere that you have to be careful which kind you buy, as the decaff process can destroy the beneficial ingredients in the tea. There are several ways of decaffienating and one of them retains the full potency of the Green Tea. I will see if I can find which one it is.

[thelace]

Here it is:


Q. Does the decaffeination process affect the health benefits of Green Tea?
A. The effect of the decaffeination process on the health benefits of
green tea depends on the decaffeination process. Salada's
decaffeination process preserves the antioxidants found in green tea
by using only spring water and effervescence (CO2 method) to take the
caffeine out. Some other tea brands use the chemical, ethyl acetate,
which can destroy most of the best antioxidants found in green tea.”

(“Frequently Asked Questions,” SALADA: http://www.greentea.com/faq.html

[lmt033167]

Yikes, glad I read this about the caffeine before I bought mine.

Does it give you the jittery feeling like Phen did the first time or like drinking coffee or coke?

I looked up the Green Tea yesterday and I found some that had no caffeine, but you had to order it online

I placed an order last week and got an email they were out of stock of CLA for 2 weeks so I am heading to the store and try and find it today.

[blueberry]

BluGreen - The kind I bought does not come in a bottle it is in punch out tablet form (30 caplets). It is called Mega-T Green Tea Dietary Supplement. It says "Caffeine Free" and "New" on the box. I got it at CVS Pharmacy in the diet section. Hope this helps. Don't know how the tea was decaffienated.

[blueberry]

LMT - I just re-ordered CLA on line and it has already been shipped. There was no shortage and these have 1285 mg per pill. Go to WellnessPartners dot com.

[44plus]

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[lmt033167]

I found mine from a health food store online. After mine was out of stock, I started looking around since I wasn't going to the store until today.

on drugstoredotcom I found these:

GNC Natural Brand Green Tea Extract 315 mg, Capsules 90 ea
Supplement Facts
Serving Size: One Capsule
Servings Per Container: 90
Amount per Serving
Green Tea Leaves Extract Camellia sinensis 315 mg*
Other Ingredients:, Dicalcium Phosphate, Gelatin

* Daily Value not established.

Maybe Im assuming they do not have caffeine since it is not listed or maybe one of the other ingredients have caffeine?

I did see the Natrol brand has 35mg of Caffeine

I just got back from Wal-Mart and got the Mega-T Green Tea capsules in a bottle and the Rexall Tonalin 1000 mg CLA, can't wait to see if it works with everything else I am doing.

[joggrri]

hmmmm, I hate to here about these negative side effects. I also got the Mega - T (green tea)as mentioned by another poster that is in the paper box in a punch out card 30 count. They were something like $3.78 at Walmart. There were several different ones to choose from so I got the cheapest because I wasnt sure I would like them. I dont see anything about caffeine one way or the other so I will assume they do have caffeine. I enjoy caffeine though. So far I have only taken them 1 at a time (morning and mid day)after a meal. (took my last phen today)
The CLA I got is also from Walmart and it is the Tomalin 1000mg. It was a little more expensive, $12.88. Havent noticed anythng different about my sleep pattern yet. Going back to Walmart tonight to get some green tea to drink and will check for the 100 cal cookies. My husband will like that. Ill be watching for the food/snack thread............

[lmt033167]

If anyone has time, here is a very good place to research about CLA - wwwdottonalindotcom

Tonalin actually makes it and there is some very good and exciting info in there about weight loss

I took the green tea and I haven't felt anything like jitters or feeling sick to my stomach with the CLA

[EP]

Thanks for all this great information. I had this sitting on my dest...the DR. gave it to me and I never took it. I am so happy I read this link!

[lmt033167]

Youre welcome. I was absolutely floored by this fact:

Today, the recommended daily dose of CLA is 3.4 grams. To achieve that level through your diet, you would have to consume more than 4 gallons of ice cream, seven pounds of beef, or almost 4 gallons of whole milk. Every day.

I went to nutritiondatadotcom and put in the amounts just for whole milk - it came out to roughly 9700 calories; and 512 g fat PER DAY we would have to consume just in the 4 gallons of milk.

On a side note - anyone had any signs the tea and CLA are working? I lost .5 over night and I took 1 dose yesterday afternoon.

[blugreen1117]

I went today and got the green tea extract pills. I'm not sure if I got the right ones though. Other posters on here said that theirs are 315 mg and taking 2 at a time. Mine are 150 and says to take 2 at a time. Doesn't that mean that I wouldn't get as many mg as if taking 2 of the 315 mg? Anyone know if they're all probalby the same, or if I should have looked for the 315 mg instead of 150. I'm going to try them tomorrow, but was just wondering about the mg.

[Blondiepa1]

Oh my goodness I love you guys! I am going to go to Walmart tonight and pick some up.

Thank you again!!

[blugreen1117]

Hey everyone! I got some green tea pills yesterday and tried them this morning about an hour ago with some low fat Yoplait yogurt. Don't feel sick or jittery. I do feel energy and I'm not hungry. But, I also took my 1/2 phen this morning around 8:00. I wanted to try the green tea without the CLA today so if I have side effects from either one, I'll know which one is causing it. Might try them both together later in the week. I'm going to the gym after while and I'll weigh there so I can get an idea after today if the green tea starts working. Everyone keep posting on here with your success (or not) with CLA and green tea. I'm curious to see how well they work and if one works better than the other.
Cary

[blueberry]

Cary - That's great that you are feeling fine this morning. I'm taking my green tea pill right now. Hmmm. about the mg...looking at the nutritional break-down on the back of the box, it says that there is 180 mg of decaffienated green tea extract. Directions say to take one caplet mid-morning and another one mid-afternoon.

[blugreen1117]

Mine says serving size: 2 caplets.
Amount per serving:
Green Tea Extract 300 mg
(Camellia sinensis) (leaf)
(standardized to contain 50% polyphenols, 150 mg)

Green Tea 500 mg
(Camellia sinensis) (leaf)

Not too sure what the difference is between those two and why they're both listed on there. Mine is the caffeinated kind because I usually like the kick that caffeine gives me. it does worry me about sleeping though in combination with the phen. I do feel fine right now, but I have a lot of energy (which for me is a good thing though). I guess the pills that are 315 and you take one pill at a time is about the same as me taking two of my 150 mg pills at the same time. I just didn't know which was better and if they all contain the same things.

[Michi]

Hello,

I am interested in learning more about the CLA and the Green Tea Extract pills. I have heard alot about the CLA pills but what about the Green Tea extract ones? What do they do to your body and how much should you take a day???

I take my phen like at 8am on an empty stomach, so would I just take 2 CLA pills and the green tea ones with it??? And then before I go to sleep at night take the CLA/Green Tea pills again???

Has anyone else had such amazing results or do you think you were just lucky ?? HeeHee.... let me know!!!!

[glandenpi]

I take my phen first, then 30min-1hr later I take the CLA 2g or 2000mg and 2 green tea 315mg each. I take them with food usually a bowl of Special K and Skim milk or a slim fast shake. If you take them without eating you will feel sick at your stomach. The green tea is an antioxidant. here is an article I found on green tea:

Dieting Benefits

In November, 1999, the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition published the results of a study at the University of Geneva in Switzerland. Researchers found that men who were given a combination of caffeine and green tea extract burned more calories than those given only caffeine or a placebo.

Green tea can even help prevent tooth decay! Just as its bacteria-destroying abilities can help prevent food poisoning, it can also kill the bacteria that causes dental plaque. Meanwhile, skin preparations containing green tea - from deodorants to creams - are starting to appear on the market.

Harmful Effects?

To date, the only negative side effect reported from drinking green tea is insomnia due to the fact that it contains caffeine. However, green tea contains less caffeine than coffee: there are approximately thirty to sixty mg. of caffeine in six - eight ounces of tea, compared to over one-hundred mg. in eight ounces of coffee.

For me, my success with this combo has been wonderful until this week... TOM!!! yuck! It still helps without the phen for craving control, but during my TOM I get the munchies like crazy. I'm doing better at controlling that with the CLA and green tea. I'll follow up at next weigh in.

-Venessa

[EBONY POETESS]

I lost 4 pounds overnight but I drank two cups of the green tea not the pills.
Is there a difference?

[joggrri]

Day 14 on CLA, havent noticed any change yet.
Day 9 on Green Tea tabs w/o phen and they are starting to fizzel out. Hunger is coming back.
Day 3 w/o phen. I might have to give up the Green Tea and try something else. My Dr wont give me anymore phen. Hope the rest of you are doing better. Has anyone noticed the add in the FITNESS mag that offers a free tonalin putty (?) for your wrist and hands with proof of purchase of the CLA? Says it builds strenth(?) Has anyone seen or used this putty? Imm gonna send in for it. I still have my reciept on my CLA. Havent weighed in a few days so Im probably about the same. I dont think I have gained any.

[Michi]

Hey everyone... are you sure its Walmart that has it? I have tried searching online at walmart.com just to see if they do carry it and I cant find it. Wouldnt a pharmacy carry it or have more chances to have it? Like Walgreens, CVS or even Publix Pharmacy?? Let me know, I wanna go try to get this stuff tomorrow!!

[joggrri]

I got both the Tonalin CLA and the Green Tea tabs at Walmart. The CLA was with the vitamins and the Green Tea was with the diet aids. Hope you can find it cause it is alot cheaper at Walmart than anywhere else.

[glandenpi]

I got both of mine at Walmart. Both are Rexall brand and both were in the vitamin section.

[blugreen1117]

Me too, Walmart in the vitamin and diet aid section. I had looked online too at Walmart.com and couldn't find it, but they do have it in the store. About $3 for the green tea and $12.88 for the CLA which is way cheaper than online. I would think Walgreens or other pharmacies would have them too, just don't know about the prices.

I'm going to skip the phen today and try just the CLA and green tea for a while and see if they do anything. I need a "vacation" from the phen for a little bit anyway. Then, maybe when I get back on the phen it'll work better. That immunity you get with it is starting to kick in for me
Have a great Day!!

[Michi]

Im going to look for it at the Walgreens by my job now during lunch... let's see!! If not, I will go to Walmart after work

Have a good day everyone!!!

[Michi]

Im back! I found both items! I had to go to GNC for the CLA but I found the green tea pills at Walgreens... soooooo today will be my first day! Let's see how it makes me feel!!!!!!

How is everyone else's progress????