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Diamond Phenster
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: chicago
Posts: 9,558
Lost Weight: 65
Current Weight: 185
Goal Weight: 160 firm by Valentines Day my birthday
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YOU KNOW I ALMOST FORGOT THAT I CALLED THEM ABOUT 7 MONTHS AGO WANTING TO GET THE SURGERY
AND THEY MAILED ME SOMETHING YESTERDAY ABOUT A FREE CONSULTATION I AM GOING TO GO I AM REALLY TIRED TRYING TO LOSE THESE LAST 60 POUNDS I HAVE GAINED 6 POUNDS BACK AND I AM TIRED OF BEING FAT I KNOW SOME OF YOU MIGHT NOT AGREE WITH THIS BUT I WANT TO BE THIN SO DAMN BADDD I CAN TASTE IT SO I AM GOING TO GO TO THE CONSULTATION
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Platinum Phenster
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: South TX.
Posts: 1,052
Lost Weight: 10 lbs.
Goal Weight: 115
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Fit- it's your personal decision, your an adult and you have a brain. Just do not rush into anything, really do your homework and read up on the negative as well as the positive outcomes. If your willing to take that chance, and your family is willing to stand behind you. Then go for it.
Anyhoo....a consultation is not a commitment it's just a first step. Just remember how far you have come.....your stats are great...6lbs. is really just a small set back. If you get it in gear, I know you can lose 30 more lbs. Maybe give this a shot before you decide to do anything rash. Either way you have this gals support. GOOD LUCK
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 153
Lost Weight: 0lbs
Current Weight: 163
Goal Weight: 130
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Fit, you should do what you need to do, just make sure that if you commit to it, make very sure you understand all the risks of the procedure, as well as the permanent issues you will have to live with afterwards. There are many good results, but when this procedure causes a complication or goes wrong, the results are permanent and awful.
Make sure the doctor is board certified. If he or she did not attend medical school in the USA, proceed with caution. Many times that means they couldn't get accepted here. ALso make sure whomever does the surgery isn't some dude trying to learn how to do the procedure. You'd be surprised how often surgeries are done by some guy who just got done dissecting a cat just a few weeks before, and is doing the procedure under the "supervision" of the attending doc. Anyway, good luck either way, but make very sure you the right decision for yourself, its a permanent one.
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Diamond Phenster
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: chicago
Posts: 9,558
Lost Weight: 65
Current Weight: 185
Goal Weight: 160 firm by Valentines Day my birthday
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THANKS PHEONIX I KNOW I SHOULD NOT TAKE THE COWARD WAY OUT IT'S JUST THAT IT SEEMS SO HARD TO ALWAYS EAT RIGHT AND WORKOUT WHEN YOUR TIRED OR YOUR DAY IS SO CONSUMED
I'LL TRY AGAIN TO DO IT THE REGULAR WAY HEY DARK GIRL YOUR SCIRRING ME BUT YOUR'E RIGHT I KNEW THIS ONE GIRL WHO DIED ON THE OPERATING TABLE SHE WAS TRYING TO LOSE WEIGHT FOR HER WEDDING BUT I HAD A FRIEND FROM HIGHSCHOOL WHO'S MOM IS A NURSE AND 3YRS AGO SHE HAD IT DONE SHE WAS A SIZE 22 AND NOW SHE IS A SIZE 7 MAN SHE CAN WEAR HER LITTLE BROTHERS CLOTHES I'M JUST FED UP BEING BIG YOU KNOW IT'S SUCH A DAMN STRUGGLE AND WHEN I SEE A EASIER WAY OUT I JUST WANT TO TRY IT I KNOW MY INSURANCE COVERS IT
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Oklahoma
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Lost Weight: 5
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Fit, I agree with the above. You are not a coward to want to do this. Whatever you decide to do, we support you. I have at least 8 friends, acquaintences who have had this surgery, and are quite pleased with the results. So, just know that we are behind you. Missus
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Silver Phenster
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: NW Burbs of Chicago
Posts: 312
Lost Weight: 52 lbs.
Current Weight: 170 lbs.
Goal Weight: 150 lbs.
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Fit, if that is what you want to do...DO IT. Don't worry about what anyone else thinks.
My best friend's Mom had it done in July and she looks fabulous!!! Another friend of mine did it and lost 80 pounds in 3 months! She couldn't be happier.I think the consultation is a great idea. They will give you a lot of info on the whole procedure and then you can decide if it's right for you.
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an article that might be of interest to you, good luck on whatever u decide.
The skinny on Roker's weight loss: Gastric bypass As any NBC Today viewer knows, weatherman Al Roker has lost a lot of weight. How he did it is an open secret around NBC, but Roker has refused to discuss the gastric bypass operation March 15 that allowed him to shed nearly 100 pounds. Now, he's ready. "In this country, if you have an alcohol problem or a drug problem, you can get treatment," says Roker, 48. "If you have a weight problem, it's lack of willpower: 'Just push away from the table, tubby, and you'd lose that weight.' But you can stop drinking, you can stop sticking a needle in your arm. You cannot not eat." How the operation works By Bob Davis, USA TODAY Surgeons divide the stomach into two compartments, each closed by a row of staples. Food is rerouted so that it bypasses the lower compartment and the duodenum (the roughly 9-inch length of small intestine below the stomach that helps break down food). What's left: an egg-size stomach attached directly to the small intestine. The procedure limits how much food a person can eat at one sitting. It also lets the body expel most food before it is fully digested. Possible risks: anemia, infection, pain and diarrhea from undigested food. Research shows that patients who have the surgery typically lose and keep off 60% of their excess weight five years later. Owning up to the operation, in which the stomach is reduced from the size of a football to an egg, "is embarrassing — the ultimate admission of failure. You don't want to talk." Which is why Roker told colleagues that he'd had his gall bladder removed: He was terrified that the bypass operation might not work and he'd gain the weight back, just as he did after every diet. "Scarsdale, Atkins, Weight Watchers, Jenny Craig, you name it, I've done it." Even when those diets caused him to drop a lot of pounds — say 50 — "when you weigh 320, that still puts you at 270." With every failure, he'd gain back the weight and "an extra 5 or 10 pounds, just for fun." Early this year, Roker says, he went into a funk. His dad had died a few months earlier. His wife, ABC 20/20 correspondent Deborah Roberts, was pregnant with their second child, and Roker couldn't give his daughter, Leila, piggyback rides because the knee he'd had replaced earlier was beginning to hurt again. "I felt horrible. I didn't look good. I didn't feel good." So he began to research the operation on the Internet and ultimately told Deborah, who had been after him to lose weight, that he had scheduled surgery. "She said, 'Are you doing this because of me?' I said, "No, I'm doing this because of me.' " The laparoscopic operation at Lenox Hill Hospital in New York involved a small incision in his belly. He was back home after a weekend and at work a week later. (He had the operation filmed, and the Nov. 12 edition of DatelineNBC is devoted to his procedure.) Roker predicts the operation will become much more common as America's obesity problems grow. But he stresses that no one should consider it unless he needs to lose a minimum of 100 pounds. Otherwise, Roker recommends dieting. He says there have been no downsides. He still enjoys his favorite foods — barbecue, for instance — but in much-reduced portions, because his stomach quickly tells him when he's full. "I have a much better relationship with food. I'm not sneaking. I'm eating out in the open. I enjoy my meals." Roberts, who has reported on Carnie Wilson's gastric bypass, says she worried that Roker was really doing it for her and that if he was disappointed with the results, "he might blame me." But she has been "magnificently, pleasantly surprised. He's discovering a part of himself that hasn't been around for years." Roker can now buy new clothes off the rack. He recently got something for himself — not just his kids — at the Gap. His jacket size has dropped from a 54 to a 46, and his waist has dropped from 54 to a 40. Roker and Today anchor Matt Lauer — they did a Sigfried and Roy dress-up Halloween routine last week on Today— now go clothes shopping together. "I say, 'Do these make me look fat? How does my butt look?' " And Roker says he might go shopping for swimsuits with Lauer this spring: "He wants me in a thong." Roker now weighs 221 pounds — a 99-pound loss. "I'm 1 pound shy of 100. It's driving me nuts." He hopes to get below 200. "I don't think I'll ever be 175. As my mother says, I am 'big-boned.' " PROS & CONS of Gastric Bypass Surgery Benefits and Risks of Surgical Treatment of Serious Obesity For someone who is interested in the ideal of surgery, to get control of serious obesity, the key question is the benefits to be gained from surgery, versus the risks that one must go through, in order to have an operation. Usually, the risks are taken right away, when the surgery is performed, and the benefits take a while to pay you back, in the form of improved health, reduced long-term risk of illness, and enhancement of your lifestyle. It’s a personal decision, as well as a medical one. The doctors can teach you about the risks, and help you measure the likelihood of benefits, and will tell you frankly, if they are out of balance for you. Still, the final decision is up to you. To make it intelligently, you need to know all about the risks, and the benefits, of the operation. Risks and Complications of Surgery The risk of a weight control operation is mainly the risk of having any abdominal operation. It is the act of having an operation, not the particular operation which is done, that causes most of the risk. Severely obese persons are well known to be at a disadvantage, when having surgery, and their risks are higher than they would be at a normal body weight. The risk of surgery comes mainly from its complications: things can go out of control, causing serious problems, often without any good reason. Having an abdominal operation places a lot of stress on the body. It creates an open wound, which can bleed or fail to heal, and it opens the door to potential infection. The emergency reaction of the body to injury can itself by harmful, when it leads to reactions such as increased clotting of blood, which can cause a fatal pulmonary embolism. Let’s look at the risks in detail. Lung Problems Atelectasis: This condition is a partial collapse of a part of the lung, caused by lack of motion of the chest wall. Normally, your lung is filled with tiny air spaces, like the tiny spaces in a loaf of bread, only much smaller. Picture what happens, when you take a loaf of bread and sit on it, and you get an idea of how the lung collapses. The best treatment is to prevent it, by deep breathing and lung exercises. We teach you these before surgery, and encourage you to do them again and again, after the operation. We also have special treatments, and even pulmonary medicine specialist consultants, to help you and your lungs recover, if atelectasis occurs. Atelectasis can cause a fever after surgery, and can also lead to developing pneumonia. Pneumonia: Pneumonia is an infection in the lungs, and after surgery it can be especially serious, because the infecting organisms often come from the gastrointestinal tract, and they can be very destructive. We prevent pneumonia by clearing out the GI tract ahead of surgery, by using antibiotics at the time of operation, and by generally using good anesthesia and respiratory treatment, to prevent atelectasis. Pulmonary Embolism: This problem affects the lungs and the heart, but it usually starts in the legs, with the formation of blood clots. Although these can occur at any time, and are more likely in overweight patients, they are especially likely at the time of and soon after surgery, because people who have an operation don’t like to move around, or exercise their legs. The blood becomes stagnant and clots in the leg veins, and if a clot breaks off and floats through the veins to the lungs, it is called a pulmonary embolism. The blood clot blocks the arteries in the lungs, and can cause a part of the lung to lose its circulation and die – a pulmonary infarction. If the circulation to a large part of the lung is affected, the heart is placed under a lot of strain, and it may fail suddenly, which can be fatal. They can prevent a pulmonary embolism, first, by thinning the blood with heparin, which makes it less likely to clot. They also prescribe elastic stockings, to compress the legs and keep the blood flowing faster in the veins. We try to keep the operation short, by operating efficiently (not hurriedly), and by getting patients up to walk as soon as possible. Infection Abscess: An abscess is a collection of infected fluid, or pus, which occurs somewhere in the body. After an abdominal operation, a pocket of fluid may develop, and if any bacteria are present, they may infect it and create an abscess. The treatment of any abscess is to drain away the infected fluid, and kill the bacteria with antibiotics. They prevent abscesses by trying to avoid any collections of fluid or blood in the abdomen, at the time of surgery, and by placing a drain if one might possibly occur. If an undrained abscess develops, we now have very skillful specialists, called interventional radiologists, who often can achieve drainage, and resolve the problem, without a need for an operation to drain it. Wound Infection: A wound infection is a type of abscess, and is treated the same way, by drainage. Seriously obese persons have a very deep layer of fat under the skin, and the usual methods which surgeons use for treating infection there do not work very well in the obese. We have developed special methods, and using these, most such infections are relatively easy to treat, although they can cause discomfort and inconvenience for a while. Urinary Tract Infection Urine flow is altered after surgery, and patients also have trouble straining down, to void. Use of a tube, or catheter, may be necessary to drain the bladder. In a rare case, this can lead to infection of the bladder. Usually such an infection can be readily eradicated with antibiotic treatment, without any additional hospital stay. Bleeding Heparin Effect They use heparin to prevent blood clotting and pulmonary embolism. At the same time, if blood does not clot at all, bleeding will occur, when surgery is performed. They have to try to find a middle ground, but because the sensitivity of different individuals may vary, delayed bleeding may occur after surgery in some persons. We observe closely for this, and can stop the heparin if bleeding gets to be a bigger risk. Hemorrhage When surgery is performed, blood vessels must be cut. We handle these by tying them with a piece of thread, called a ligature, or by using a device called an electrocautery, which coagulates the blood, and the end of the blood vessel. Sometimes, a blood vessel may escape, and then begin to bleed again several hours later. This can cause a hemorrhage, either inside the abdomen, or at the skin level. Hemorrhage must be stopped. We have several strategies for this, but in some cases, a return to the operating room may be needed. This is a rare event. Transfusions When blood loss occurs, that tend to make the pulse and blood pressure unstable, a transfusion may be needed. The blood bank has very high quality standards, and the blood is quite safe, but there is still a possibility of getting hepatitis, and a very small risk of receiving the AIDS virus (about 1 in 500,000), from a transfusion. These risks can be reduced, by donating your own blood and having it saved for your surgery – a procedure called autologous donation. This costs quite a lot (about $125 per pint), and we feel it is probably not economically sound, since the likelihood of needing the blood is quite low. They also have performed surgery successfully on many occasions under the Bloodless Surgery Program, when patients decline to receive blood or blood products for religious reasons. We will honor a commitment to avoid transfusion, on your instructions. Bowel Obstruction After any abdominal operation, scars called adhesions will form in the abdomen. These look like strands of latex, or sometimes like a piece of fibrous cord, and can snag a piece of bowel – just like your garden hose can wrap itself around the smallest bump, when you pull on it. Sometimes, even many years after the original operation, the bowel becomes kinked around an adhesion, becomes obstructed, and nothing can get through. This must be relieved, especially before the bowel loses its blood supply and dies, which can make the bad situation even worse. Usually an emergency operation is necessary. Occasionally, a bowel obstruction can occur within a few days after surgery. In this case, the adhesions are much softer, and will often come apart on their own, if conditions are made right. Leakage of Bowel Connections When the surgeon fastens bowel to bowel, or bowel to stomach, the connection is called an anastamosis. If it does not form a complete seal, and leakage of fluid from within the bowel occurs, it is called an anastamotic leak. Fluid from the GI tract, containing at least some bacteria, leaks out into the abdomen where it doesn’t belong, and causes a serious infection, accompanied by much swelling, a rapid pulse rate, and sometimes, formation of an abscess. This is always a very serious complication, and its diagnosis and treatment are made much more difficult by severe obesity. Conventional wisdom indicates that an immediate operation is required, to seal the leak and drain away the infection. Our experience has taught us that, more than half the time, such an operation may cause more harm than good, and that it can and should be avoided. Drainage may already be present, and if not, it can often be obtained by the interventional radiologist, without surgery. When this is possible, the insult of surgery, and the spreading of infection through the rest of the abdomen, can be avoided. Anastamotic leak almost always causes some increase in hospitalization, and increased discomfort from the drain, and the need for repeated X-rays. Obstruction of the Stomach Outlet In performing the Gastric Bypass, when the stomach is connected to the bowel, to opening is deliberately made small, about ½ inch in diameter, to slow the flow of food out of the small stomach pouch. All healing occurs by scar formation, and scars always have a tendency to contract. This may cause the opening between stomach and bowel to become too small, so that no food can get through. This causes repeated vomiting, and must be corrected. This type of problem used to occur in about up to 10% of cases, and many surgeons continue to be troubled by this complication. The treatment is quite simple, and can be done as an outpatient procedure. However, as we have worked to refine the Gastric Bypass, we have noticed that the incidence of this problem has declined, almost to the vanishing point, less than 0.5% of both open and laparoscopic operations. We believe this may be due to improved anatomy, and improved blood supply to the affected bowel, and we recently reported our findings to an international meeting of bariatric surgeons. Chronic Nutritional Problems Nutritional problems are quite rare after the Gastric Bypass, and are quite readily avoided by use of the proper vitamin and mineral supplements, and by eating a healthy diet. One of our most important objectives during our long follow-up is teaching food values, and the content of a healthy eating regimen. A remarkable effect of the Gastric Bypass is the progressive change in attitudes toward eating. Patients begin to eat to live - they no longer live to eat. Protein Deficiency Protein is the essential stuff, of which our muscles, organs, heart and brain are all constructed. Our bodies require a constant supply of protein building materials, to repair and replace tissues which become worn out or damaged. The Gastric Bypass and the Gastric Banding both reduce the capacity of the stomach to a very small volume, so that protein-containing foods must be carefully eaten with each meal, to be sure that the body gets enough to maintain itself. If the first half of each meal is taken as protein-containing foods, deficiency is very unlikely to occur. We do not advise the use of protein supplements or beverages. Vitamin Deficiency Conventional nutritional teaching has been that vitamins are contained in adequate amounts in a well-balanced diet, and supplements should not be required, provided that one eats a well-balanced diet. After weight-control surgery, the diet is initially much less than enough to supply complete nutrition – that’s why you lose weight. In order to have any chance of getting enough vitamins, a high potency multivitamin supplement must be taken daily. We think its safest to do this for the rest of your life, after this type of surgery. In addition, we have seen a few persons develop deficiency of Vitamin B-12, even when taking a multi-vitamin supplement. B-12 is absorbed in the stomach and duodenum, which are largely bypassed with this surgery. Simple use of a sub-lingual (under the tongue) tablet of B-12, once a week, maintains very adequate vitamin levels, and prevents deficiency, which can develop without warning, until it becomes very dangerous. Mineral Deficiency They recommend multivitamin preparation contains mineral supplements in generous amounts. They also recommend daily use of calcium, and many patients, particularly women, will require a special iron supplement, to maintain adequate iron stores and prevent anemia of iron deficiency. The total cost of all the needed supplements is about $20 per month. Side-Effects of the Gastric Bypass, and the Gastric Banding Side-effects occur with any operation. Although they are less serious than complications, they may be permanent, and may require a change in lifestyle, to avoid continuing discomfort. Nausea After gastric restriction, if one gets a full feeling, and continues to eat, chances are an episode of vomiting will result. Most patients have this happen several times, and most quickly learn to follow instructions to eat slowly, chew food well, and avoid that last bite when fullness occurs. Typically, with the gastric Bypass, a profound feeling of satisfaction follows the fullness within a few minutes, and makes further eating a matter of indifference. The Gastric Banding does not produce this sense of satisfaction as quickly, or as intensely. During the first few days to weeks, another kind of nausea may follow the gastric bypass. This results from delayed function of the Y-limb, and spontaneously resolves with time. Food Intolerance Red Meats: After either the gastric bypass, or the gastric banding, red meats are not well tolerated, and may cause vomiting. This is purely a mechanical effect – your stomach cannot tell steak from chicken, except that steak is much harder to break down so that it will fit through the small stomach outlet. If the outlet gets plugged, vomiting will result. We advise patients to avoid red meats until their stomach is functioning very well, usually after at least 3 – 4 months. Sugar: Refined sugars and candy consist of many small molecules, which tend to draw fluid into the intestine. After the gastric bypass (not after the gastric banding), a condition called "dumping syndrome" may occur, when sugar is taken on an empty stomach, passes rapidly through the stomach into the intestine, and draws a large amount of fluid into the bowel. The physiology is complicated, but the result is a condition like shock: one turns ghostly pale, breaks out in a profuse sweat, feels butterflies in the stomach, a rapid pulse, and a feeling of prostration. Nause and vomiting, cramps and diarrhea may follow. Most people who have this reaction never try to sneak another candy bar – and we think that’s not such a bad effect, if you’re trying to lose weight. The problem of dumping is avoided by avoiding sweets, candies, and fruit juices on an empty stomach. Certain dressings, barbecue sauce and mayonnaise may also cause problems, and need to be avoided. Milk and Milk Sugar: To digest milk sugar (lactose), our bodies need and enzyme called lactase, which is often in short supply in the lower small intestine. After gastric bypass (not after gastric banding), milk and milk products may not be fully digested. ****her downstream, they are fermented by bacteria, and this causes gas, cramps and diarrhea. Milk can be treated, to make it tolerable. In the big picture, it’s probably better to avoid it. Many prepared foods (those that come in a box, or frozen entrees) contain milk sugar as an additive. It is important to learn to be a label-reader, or to avoid packaged foods, and especially junk food. Changed Bowel Habits After restrictive surgery, the amount of food consumed is greatly reduced, and the quantity of roughage consumed may be much smaller. Correspondingly, the amount of bowel movements will be diminished, causing less frequent bowel activity, and constipation. If this becomes a problem, a stool softener supplement may be needed, to avoid rectal difficulties. Transient Hair Loss During the phase of rapid weight loss, calorie intake is much less than the body needs, and protein intake is marginal. The body is in a panic state, like what would happen during a period of starvation. One of the side-effects, in some persons, is inactivation of 30 – 40% (rather than the usual 10%) of hair follicles, causing noticeable amounts of hair to fall out. This is a transient effect, and resolves when nutrition and weight stabilize. We advise patients to avoid hair treatments and permanents, and be sure of adequate protein intake. Sometimes a zinc supplement will help, and Minoxidil (a drug to prevent and reverse hair loss) may be tried. Loss of Muscle Mass When the body is in a panic state, and trying to combat starvation, it hoards its precious fat until any other usable fuel has been burned. Practically, the body will prefer to burn muscle mass, before consuming its precious fat (don’t ask us why – we didn’t write the rules). If muscle is not regularly used for exercise, like every day, it will be consumed to meet energy needs. Loss of muscle mass is preventable. It is very important, during active weight loss after surgery (or even when on a diet), to exercise vigorously every day. We recommend at least 20 minutes a day of aerobic activity, and it is well to devote attention to upper body strength as well. Many persons find, after a few weeks or months of regular daily exercise, that they actually begin to enjoy it, and start to work out even more. Fairly vigorous exercise, for more than 30 minutes a day, can greatly enhance fat-burning, and hasten weight loss. It also builds a healthy and beautiful body. Seriously obese persons are very strong, and powerful –after all, just getting out of bed, you lift more than some people pick up all day long! It’s a shame to let that power be lost, when you need it to enjoy your life, and to make up for all the excitement you’ve put off. Save the power, while losing the fat, and you can just imagine how much energy you can have, and how much more you can accomplish! Pregnancy OK, so it’s not exactly their fault, but it happens often enough to give a special warning. Many severely overweight women are also infertile, because the fatty tissue soaks up the normal hormones, and makes some of its own as well, completely confusing the ovaries and uterus, and causing a lack of ovulation. As weight loss occurs, this situation may change quickly. They believe it is important to avoid conception during the phase of rapid weight loss – about one year after surgery – to maintain adequate nutrition. This requires special attention to contraception, even by those who think that it can't happen, because "natural" infertility may not last – in fact, it can go away in one night. Benefits of Surgical Weight Loss Finally, we can talk about the good stuff. In their sections about the health consequences of severe obesity, we listed problems, or co-morbidities, which affect most of the organs in the body. The remarkable and wonderful fact is that most of these problems can be greatly improved, or will entirely resolve, with successful weight loss. Most people have actually observed this, at least for short periods, after a weight loss by dieting. Unfortunately, with dieting, such benefits usually do not last, because diets don’t last. They all have shown that the weight loss achieved with Gastric Bypass, Roux en-Y can average 80% of excess body weight, and can be maintained for years following surgery. They instruct patients in a very simple program, which is much easier to follow when one is not constantly starving on a diet. Weight Loss Results after Laparoscopic Gastric Bypass Now let's look at the health benefits of weight loss: High Blood Pressure At least 70% of patients who have high blood pressure, and who are taking medications to control it, are able to stop all medications and have a normal blood pressure, usually within 2 – 3 months after surgery. When medications are still required, their dosage can be lowered, with reduction of their annoying side-effects. High Blood Cholesterol Over 80% of patients will develop normal cholesterol levels within 2 – 3 months after operation. Heart Disease Although we can't say definitively that heart disease is reduced, the improvement in problems such as high blood pressure, high blood cholesterol, and diabetes certainly suggests that improvement in risk is very likely. In one recent study, the risk of death from cardiovascular disease was profoundly reduced in diabetic patients, who are particularly susceptible to this problem. It may be many years before further proof exists, since there is no easy and safe test for heart disease. Diabetes Mellitus Over 90% of Type II diabetics obtain excellent results, usually within a few days after surgery: normal blood sugar levels, normal Hemoglobin A1C values, and freedom from all their medications, including insulin injections. Based upon numerous studies of diabetes and the control of its complications, it is likely that the problems associated with diabetes will be arrested in their progression, when blood sugar is maintained at normal values. There is no medical treatment for diabetes which can achieve as complete and profound an effect, as surgery - which has led some physicians to suggest that surgery may be the best treatment for diabetes, in the seriously obese patient.. Abnormal Glucose Tolerance, or "Borderline Diabetes" is even more reliably reversed by gastric bypass. Since this condition becomes diabetes in many cases, the operation can frequently prevent diabetes, as well. Asthma Most asthmatics find that they have fewer and less severe attacks, or sometimes none at all. When asthma is associated with gastroesophageal reflux disease, it is particularly benefited by gastric bypass. Respiratory Insufficiency Improvement of exercise tolerance and breathing ability usually occurs within the first few months after surgery. Often, patients who have barely been able to walk, find that they are able to participate in family activities, even sports activities. Sleep Apnea Syndrome Dramatic relief of sleep apnea occurs as our patients lose weight. Many report that within a year of surgery, their symptoms were completely gone, and they had even stopped snoring completely – and their spouses agree. Gastroesophageal Reflux Disease Relief of all symptoms of reflux usually occurs within a few days of surgery, for nearly all patients. We are now beginning a study to determine if the changes in the esophageal lining membrane, called Barrett's esophagus, may be reversed by the surgery as well – thereby reducing the risk of esophageal cancer. Gallbladder Disease When gallbladder disease is present at the time of the surgery, it is "cured" by removing the gallbladder during the operation. If the gallbladder is not removed, there is some increase in risk of developing gallstones after the surgery is performed, and occasionally, removal of the gallbladder may be necessary at a later time. Stress Urinary Incontinence This condition responds dramatically to weight loss, usually by becoming completely controlled. A person who is still troubled by incontinence can choose to have specific corrective surgery later, with much greater chance of a successful outcome, with a reduced body weight. Low Back Pain and Degenerative Disk Disease, and Degenerative Joint Disease. Patients usually experience considerable relief of pain and disability from degenerative arthritis and disk disease, and from pain in the weight-bearing joints. This tends to occur early, with the first 25 -30 pounds lost, usually within about a month after surgery. Of course, if there is nerve irritation, or structural damage already present, it may not be reversed by weight loss, and some pain symptoms can persist. The Scientific Proof Measurement of the benefits and outcomes of modern bariatric surgery is one of the most important areas of surgical research in obesity. We are proud to say that we have followed our patients with Laparoscopic Bypass prospectively, and have very solid information never before measured, on the effects of this operation. We have several additional studies in progress, to further measure the improvement in health and lifestyle that weight-control surgery can accomplish. [ December 08, 2003, 03:16 PM: Message edited by: ImTooSexy ]
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: chicago
Posts: 9,558
Lost Weight: 65
Current Weight: 185
Goal Weight: 160 firm by Valentines Day my birthday
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WOW THANKS SEXY
YOU'LL BE HAPPY TO KNOW THAT THEY TOLD ME I WAS NOT FAT ENOUGH ANYMORE THEY SAID MY IDEAL WEIGHT IS 125 AND I HAVE TO BE ONE-HUNDRED POUNDS OVER THAT SO YOU GUYS DONT HAVE TO WORRY I WILL BE DOING THISTHE REGULAR WAY FLUCK! DOES ANYTHING GET ANYTHING GET ANY EASIER OR WHAT?
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Oklahoma
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Sexy
Loved those cartoons MissusBE BLESSED
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i thought they were funny too, but i know a lot of people will find them offensive.
so hows it going? ![]() [ December 08, 2003, 06:54 PM: Message edited by: ImTooSexy ]
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: chicago
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Lost Weight: 65
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OH OK SEXY AND MISSUS JUST CUT ME OUT HUH
THOSE PICS ARE NICE I LIKE THE SISTA LOOKIN HEALTHY LIKE WHAT I LOOK GOOD
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sorry fit. i would never intentionally cut u out, for some reason, and i dont know how, i didnt even see your post before missus.
im glad your doing it the old fashion way, and not taking chances risking your health. there is always that percent that dont make it out that surgery alright and it would be ashame if part of that percent were you. your young and strong and can overcome this obstacle in life like everyone on here hopefully will. and for the sista in the post, honey is workin it aint she! thats my idea of sexy if u ask me , not alley mcbeal (sp), that needs a meal ![]() [ December 08, 2003, 08:26 PM: Message edited by: ImTooSexy ]
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Bronze Phenster
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Ohio
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Sorry to say this, but I dont think they will do the surgery if all you need to lose is 60 lb. I "think" you have to be at least 100 lb. overweight.
Vicki
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Join Date: Jun 2003
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HEY VICKI
YEAH I KNOW THEY TOLD ME THAT YESTERDAY BUMMER OH WELL BACK DOING THE REAL HARD WORK AND IT'S NOT WORKING OUT IT'S WATCHING MY FOOD
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Join Date: May 2003
Location: On a hill overlooking San Francisco Bay
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fit,
I know how you feel. I want the sugury now to because I work so hard, but it really is a horrible thing. OK, I've posted this a million times, but here goes again. People who lose 50 pounds or more and keep it off for 5 years, -- exercise 2500 calories a week -- eat 35 to 55 fruit and veggie servings -- loose weight as soon as the gain a few pounds. You just need to decide that you want this and work at it. I know it sux, but it's better than surgery. It's nice to be too thin Hang in there! Beth
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Gold Phenster
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Kansas
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Fit, I am here just thinking to myself maybe I can gain some weight so I can have the surgery!!!
I wish somedays that this whole weight issue was some how easier!! I wish that to lose weight I don't have to invest every waking minute of my life into diet and excerise!! Why oh why isn't there an easier way!!! I go back to the dr tomorrow and I know that the scale is going to be MEAN to me!!! I have not been working out and I have been eating junk. I get STRESSED out and I EAT!! The last 2 months have been HORRIBLE and I have gained 15 pounds back!!! About 2 or 3 months she put me on Remeron for depression, I am going to see if she will switch to something else! Because I do not think it is working, I have been crying alot lately over stupid stuff and I am not one to cry!! I was listening to the radio and a sad country song comes on and I will start crying! The other day I was out Christmas shopping and I saw this little boy that appeared to be my sons age and he was retarded and I just started bawling and thought man what if my son was like that!!! I cannot shake this overeating, crying, stressed out, depression funk!!
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Diamond Phenster
Join Date: Jun 2003
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HEY GALAXY GIRL I HAVE BEEN SO FLUCKING STRESSED OUT I CAN'T STAND MYSELF OR MY LIFE RIGHT NOW
IT FEELS LIKE I AM BEING ATTACKED AT EVERY ANGLE I FEEL LIKE I AM IN THE CENTER OF THE WORLD AND THEY ARE STONING ME JUST FOR EXISTING NOONE IS EVER SATISFIED IF I AM HAPPY SOMEONE IS THERE TO MAKE ME UNHAPPY AND AS A RESULT I EAT AND GET DEPRESSED AND EVERYTHING I EAT I AM SOMEHOW ALLERGIC TO SO MY RESISTANCE IS DOWN AND SO IS MY SPIRITS THIS IS THE ONE NIGHT I AM WINE FREE A DAMN SHAME I KNOW HEY ELMO GIRL I HAVE BEEN ON ANITDEPRESSANTS BEFORE AND ALL I DID WAS SLEEP SLEEP SLEEP I DONT KNOW I AM GOING TO READ MY BIBLE TONIGHT LIKE I HAVE BEEN ALMOST EVERY NIGHT AND HOPE FOR GENUINE HAPPINESS AND I GAINED 6 POUNDS SO YOU ARE NOT ALONE
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Join Date: May 2003
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You know lossing weight and keeping it off is a process and a journey. I think the end game is the same, watch what you eat and exercise, but I think the process is different for everyone and you need to find your own road. But, here is the perspecitive I have after being where you are. The diet thing sux! But, I'm so much happier when it's under control, then when it's out of control. The fear of lost of control helps me stay on track. When I lose control and gain a few pounds, when the world attacks me, I internalize it; when I'm in control, I can say screw it. It is a clear relationship. What I weigh and how I feel about myself are very related. OK, this is not to say I'm perfect, because I'm not, I'm up 10 pounds since June and I started dieting and I'm down 2 and I have 8 to go. The trick is I forgave myself and asked myself what I wanted in life and then got back on the wagon. I also find if I don't do cadio 4 to 6 times a week, I loose my mind these days. I know people here like weights, but they don't do much for weight control (the extra calories extra muscle burn a day is about 50 calories -- the burn factor is a sales pitch from personal trainers, Cardio is what people need to do to keep weight off) I don't know if this will help you or not, I do know that it's easier to take on the world when you're not beating yourself up about your weight. Forgive yourself for those 6 pounds and move one. Cheers, Beth
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Diamond Phenster
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: chicago
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Lost Weight: 65
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HEY GALAXY
I AGREE AT FIRST I THOUGHT THE WEIGHTS WOULD HELP BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THEY ARE SLOWING ME DOWN I AM A LITTLE SICK TODAY BUT MAYBE I'LL DO SOME CARDIO FOR ABOUT 45 MIN AND GO HOME YOU HAVE LOST ALOT GIRL I WANT TO BE WHERE YOU ARE NOW YOU KNOW I TRIED THE LIQUID FAST BUT I STAYED SO HUNGRY WHAT TYPE OF DIET ARE YOU ON?
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