[Scully1]

Well I started the 15mg phen last monday, 11/25/02, I weighed in at 202.5.

I weighed myself on Thanksgiving & weighed in at 197.5, I was SO excited.

I started doing the treeadmill for 30mins on monday, tuesday & wednesday. I also have been getting in my (at least) 6cups of water every day.

Did not treadmill on thrusday or friday....saturday ******d all day (thought the walking would make up for not treadmilling), no treadmill on sunday, worked outside to put up holiday lights & worked inside decoragting.

So today I get on the scale & cried my eyes out to my hubby (who is being very supportive) the damn thing read 206.5

How could that have happened?
I am so dicouraged by it I took 2 of the 15mg pills today.

Can anyone offer anything please

[health4life]

Stay positive and please leave the scale(satan) alone. Dont pay it no mind. You are doing good and continue to do what u have been doing. Please dont give up Weight goes up and down during the day and especially during the week thats why its not always good to rely on it. Take your last lowest weight and ride with that.

WE ARE HERE FOR U

Dont let the scale or anyone else be the judge of anything that u are doing. Let your clothes be the judge and be patient. Drink your water keep exercising and take care.

[zimaqueen9]

YOUR WEIGHT ACTUALLY JUMPS UP AND DOWN. IT DEPENDS ON TIME OF DAY,SODIUM INTAKE THE DAY BEFORE,TIME OF THE MONTH,AND SO ON. DON'T LET IT GET YOU DOWN. OH ALSO DID YOU WEIGH WITH OR WITH OUT SHOES. IT COULD HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT SHOES, OR MAYBE YOU HAVE MORE CLOTHS ON TODAY THAN THANKSGIVING.

HOPE THIS KEEPS YOU MOTIVATED. DONT LET IT GET YOU DOWN .

[ December 02, 2002, 01:16 PM: Message edited by: zimaqueen9 ]

[krayolakolorz]

Hey there!!!

Dont worry!! We have all been there! Whatever you do dont give up...Trust me on this one. I noticed things like that happen to me too. I wouldnt weigh yourself more than once a week, or maybe even once every two weeks. Plus, I noticed that home scales, and the scale at the drs reads TOTALLY different.

So let me ask you this...What have you been eating? You did say that you were drinking your water, which is GREAT!!! *High fives* I have to force myself to drink water cause man do I hate it!!

Back to the questions for you:

What is your diet like during the week?

How much water are you drinking?

Do you ingest caffiene?

What about veggies and fruits?

Are you eating enough?

Personally I try to excersize between 3-5 days a week, and yes there is sometimes that I cant get to the treadmill. And then im like OH MY GAWWW I gained 4 pounds. My doctor told me that the fluctuation of weight can be either from water retention, not drinking enough (WHATEVER!!!! Geeze im practically a lake myself!) Or the combo of food that I have been eating. I had to cut WAY down on carbs.

Let us know so we can help you! Or maybe give you a couple of pointers! But please please DONT GIVE UP! The first two weeks I was on Phen I didnt loost anything but ONE pound.....I was so discouraged....But FINALLY things started happening...Just hang in there! It WILL work!

[ December 02, 2002, 01:21 PM: Message edited by: krayolakolorz ]

[stacygirlvo]

uh, yeah...agree wholeheartedly with health4!! If you start out this way - we'll be visiting you in the looney bin!

Take it easy...DO NOT WEIGH YOURSELF every week! It will ABSOLUTELY NOT be an accurate representation of your weight.

Plus - you are working out & building muscle - muscle weighs more than fat - but will someday burn more calories for you.

be patient!
stay off the scale! (or Satan as it is affectionately called here!)
ONE DAY AT A TIME.
never, never, ever get discouraged. you've already made the best step towards your new life
NOW GIVE YOURSELF A FREAKIN BREAK!!!!

i mean that in a loving and caring way!

[slowfoot]

Try not to be discouraged! My weight fluctuates depending on where I am in my cycle, what time of day I weigh, etc.

I try not to be a slave to the scale but it's hard not to, especially when its encouraging one moment, and a damn liar the next!

My only suggestions to you are:

Try weighing at the same time of day each time. (Early morning before eating or drinking works best for me.)

Take your measurements as well as weighing in. The scale can show water weight, but measuring gives you a real idea of what is happening with your bod.

How do your clothes feel on you? Looser, tighter, about the same?

Drink your water. At least 8 eight ounce glasses a day!

Also, try one of the websites that help you calculate your calories vs. movement such as fitday dot com. (I use that for everything I eat, and all the exercise I do. Plus it makes a graph for you to see where you are getting your calories from ie: fat, protein, carbs.)

Use this forum! Read, post, and do it often! The folks here are so helpful and supportive, it has helped me TONS!

And remember, phen is only a tool, not magic. You'll still be doing the work !

[Melissa0101]

Give yourself some time you just started on the 25th. I went 2 weeks when I first started and stayed at the same weight. All in time. Don't get discouraged. Taking the 2 15mg pills should make a difference also. 15mg did nothing for me. keep up all the good work your doing IT WILL PAY OFF IF PROMISE. I've been on phen since oct 21 and lost 15 lbs which I'm happy with. I've been struggling with different weight loss plans since 1999 weight watchers, xenical, now phen Phen is the best plan by far. I only lost 30 lbs on xenical so i'm very happy. If you've been depriving yourself of water before you started doing phen it may hang on to it for a little while then bam you'll lose like 5 lbs in 1 week.

[Scully1]

Originally posted by krayolakolorz:
[q]Hey there!!!

Dont worry!! We have all been there! Whatever you do dont give up...Trust me on this one. I noticed things like that happen to me too. I wouldnt weigh yourself more than once a week, or maybe even once every two weeks. Plus, I noticed that home scales, and the scale at the drs reads TOTALLY different.

I am determined to NOT give up, but this felt like such a set back

The 3 times I have weighed myself since starting the pill has been in the morning right after I use the bathroom, weighing in full naked.

So let me ask you this...What have you been eating?

For breakfast I have been having either cream of wheat with some brown sugar & sweet & low in it, or a few of the days I had a fried egged on plain toast with a slice of pepper jack cheese. One day I had no breakfast.

For lunch, it has varied, of course there was thanksgivng afternoon dinner, but I thought I did good with smaller portions, I did snack on meat/cheese/crackers before dinner.
Otherwise lunches have been ok, two of the days I did have fastfood hamburgers which I know is bad but thought since breakfast was next to nothing that it was OK.

For dinners rice, sausage, chicken, just a little veggies, no fruit, hamburger, diet soda.

You did say that you were drinking your water, which is GREAT!!! *High fives* I have to force myself to drink water cause man do I hate it!!

Yep start off every morning with 2cups of water & do at least a total of 6cups per day.

Back to the questions for you:

What is your diet like during the week?

try not to snack but have had some, do not feel as if the pill is still working by the time I get home from work....according to the pill container it says to take 1 pill 1 hour before breakfast, so it feels like it wears off.

How much water are you drinking?

at least 6 cups a day

Do you ingest caffiene?

1 or 2 cups of coffee every morning, minimal soda intake.

What about veggies and fruits?

hardly any, which I know is a problem

Are you eating enough?

I think so, I have noticed it does seem to take a little less to get full since starting the pill, unless of course that is just in my brain.

Personally I try to excersize between 3-5 days a week, and yes there is sometimes that I cant get to the treadmill. And then im like OH MY GAWWW I gained 4 pounds. My doctor told me that the fluctuation of weight can be either from water retention, not drinking enough (WHATEVER!!!! Geeze im practically a lake myself!) Or the combo of food that I have been eating. I had to cut WAY down on carbs.

I want to to the treadmill 4 days each for 30mins, last week I only got in 3 days, so this week I am adding on a 4th day, is this enough to start with?

Let us know so we can help you! Or maybe give you a couple of pointers! But please please DONT GIVE UP! The first two weeks I was on Phen I didnt loost anything but ONE pound.....I was so discouraged....But FINALLY things started happening...Just hang in there! It WILL work![/b]

I can't give up, I do not like the way I have changed weight wise in the past for 4yrs, I tried other diets & even weight wathcers but hit plateau's & I guess gave up

Thank you everyone for your words of encouragement, it means a great deal, cause today has just ****ed

[ December 02, 2002, 01:47 PM: Message edited by: Scully ]

[HIPPIE]

Sounds like you might be getting a lot of sodium,but don't fret,you do need to increase your water to flush that out,at least 64oz a day,I know ,I know, but get a 32oz bottle,fill it up twice a day and there you are

[Scully1]

Originally posted by HIPPIE:
Sounds like you might be getting a lot of sodium,but don't fret,you do need to increase your water to flush that out,at least 64oz a day,I know ,I know, but get a 32oz bottle,fill it up twice a day and there you are

So soduim gets in the way huh?

WOW 64oz a day that is alot, but I will do it.

Thank you

[BebeMom]

Scully, been there done that girl. It can be very frustrating but hang in there... We all have bad days and we all have good days.
Keep your head up and it will get better - PROMISE

I just restarted my phen today after 3 months away. I am taking 30mg this time.
Talk about discouraged..... Since my last visit on 9/6/02 I have gained 6 lbs but with what I had lost that month, I have gained almost 10 lbs !!
I really need to get re-focused...

Good luck
Denise

[HIPPIE]

Scully,Check this out
about sodium
http://www.icare4u.com/Nu0020.htm

to calculate your water intake
http://www.belmontsprings.com/learn_...340_hydcal.asp

[ December 02, 2002, 02:17 PM: Message edited by: HIPPIE ]

[krayolakolorz]

Hey there Scully! Glad to see that you posted so quickly!!!

Anywho...Here is my advice to you.

Working Out: I think your excersizing is just right. Try not to overdo it cause then you wont want to do it at all. Try changing it up too! Maybe one day (depending on where you live, and if its not too cold) go out for a walk with someone. Then the next day go do the treadmill. If a store is not TOO far from you walk to it, go look at magazines (get your mind off food, and the diet itself) then walk back home. Youll be surprised HOW much time went by. Ive been walking pretty much EVERYWHERE. At lunch time sometimes ill get up from my desk and walk around down stairs in the lobby (being that my building is HUMUNGO!!)

Water: You said 6 cups a day? Now is this 8 oz each? You might not be getting enough water. I try to get in 90 oz a day. Yes I know its rediculous but seriously, your body will adjust. Then all of the sudden you dont even notice how its becoming a task. I do know that for every 15-20 pounds overweight that is an extra 8oz of water, that you have to drink. So if you are 60 pounds overweight, you need to add 24 ounces to what you area already drinking. (I know it ****S!)

Food: Now, in my opinion there are somethings that could require tweeking, but already your cutting your portions down (YOU ROCK!!). The smallest things count! This is how I started! Instead of mayo I would use mustard, wheat instead of white, brown rice instead of white, or lets say I was having spaghetti, I wouldnt eat the roll, and add some greens. Maybe try incorporating more veggies into your diet. I hardly EVER get fruits, so I try my best with fruit juices/dried fruits. Oh and man do I HATE veggies, so the great alternative for me is V8. Its great! I add it to everything!!! (Mostly soups, and red sauces). Meat, I usually dont partake in, but if I do eat it, I eat turkey, or chicken (lean).

Scully, whatever you do DO NOT SKIP MEALS. I cannot stress that enough. That will slow your metabolism down, and no one can argue otherwise. You did post that you sometimes (or once) skipped breakfast, thats a NO NO! Here are some foods that I have skipped out on or incorporated for (to give you some ideas).

No No Carbs: Potatoes, all white breads, chips, taco shells, pasta, corn on the cob, cereal, white rice, white sauces. (Anything white I stay away from). If you notice that all foods that are LIGHT in color are usually foods that pack a punch carb wise.

Yes Foods: Kashi cereal, brown rice, vegetables (stay away from potato, peas, corn, some beans, remember the BRIGHTER the veggie the more nutrients it packs), red sauces (not white, such as alfredo, big NO NO).

Snacks: I eat either pretzels, kashi (great for cereal in the morning or snacks), kashi soy bars, and even slim fasts new meal on the go bars (meal suppliment) or their snack bars. And they are GREAT!!! Especially the oatmeal raisin or the oatmal spice (mouth drooling). They are JUST like those iced oatmeal cookies and they only have 220 cals!!! WOOHOOOO!!!!

Number one rule for me: Watch the sodium and caffiene. I do NOT drink coffee or soda, havent for one year now. I drink tea instead...which I like much better anyhow. I really REALLY have to watch my sodium intake because I LOVE salt on my food. I had to cut back big time, now I just spice up my foods with rice vinegar, pepper, or louisiana hot sauce (OH YEAHHHH!!!) If you really HATE veggies try adding something you like! I add some salsa once in a while (depending on what it is).

Let us know if you have ANY questions! Im sure most of the people on here have a lot of pointers to help you out too!