Does smoking pot make Phen lose affectiveness?

[Jennie Mac]

Or really i am wondering does smoking pot have any kind of affects with taking Phen? As far as the munchies are concerned thats not an issue. Just wondering ;)

[04montecarlo]

I would think that depends....if a person smokes pot when they take their phen in the morning then I think there's a bigger problem than weight! However, if you smoke occasionally/socially then I don't think it makes a difference. It also depends if you get stoned out of your mind and sit in front of the tv then I think the phen isn't gonna help, versus someone who smokes a bit and still functions normally. I'm no expert, but if you aren't one to get the muchies I would think the pot wouldn't change how phen affects you.

[HSuth]

One of my sons smoked while he was taking Phen....didn't bother him any. He lost 50 pounds in 4 months.

[Jennie Mac]

As far as my smoking habits, i smoke generally once to twice a day and its always at night. I smoke very small amounts like maybe a bowl or two at the most. I have always gotten the reverse affects as everyone else from pot. i get lots of energy can start to focus on things, DONT get hungry and in fact makes food really repulsive (which i love!) and i am always at a functional state. i mean theres just no way any situation ever were to arise that i need to be straight, that my brain wouldnt instantly unfog : ) I am definately a casual smoker and am not into sitting around smoking blunts all day anymore lol I just wanted to make sure that the phen wouldnt stop working or work less when i smoke.

now that brings me to a new discovery with the pot/phen mix. I am curious from another smokers stand point, does phen take away from the affectiveness of the pot? I recently changed to a new product and it is very good, taste, smell, and view wise. its good! BUT...when i smoke...it seems to only give me a very short high. and even then, it seems like theres no head buzz or anything kinda like you know youre high, but you dont feel it at all. eyes arent affected, nothing. its a very clear high and to be honest not worth smoking. so im really trying to determine if its the phen taking away from the pot, or the pot is just BS : )

[rocknrobin]

maybe I'm just naive, but I assumed much of us were very health concious. the idea of smoking pot when you are taking a prescription diet aid is very upsetting to me. Why even bother losing weight if you have an addiction. (smoking every day once or twice...to me is an addiction....if you admit to 1 or 2 it is most likely more). not to be critical...you can all do what you want.....but why work hard on getting healthy and then smoke pot?:confused:

[Jennie Mac]

And please enlighten me on what is so unhealthy about smoking pot? Considering there are no munchies involved, i do only smoke generally one bowl a day if that and can quit at any time. its not something that i wait all day long to do or feel the urge to do, its just something i do kind of like your coffee in the morning. or anyone who takes any kinds of sleep aids. it is the same thing.

also you want to talk about starting phen while having an addiction is sooo wrong...well how bout most of the people heres addiction to food? if you think about it, many many many people are truly addicted to food when they find themselves eating only things they want and not what they need to survive and be healthy. so everytime you cramme done of those cheeseburgers into your mouth THAT was unhealthy, but pot, it does nothing "unhealthy" except emit smoke into the air and into your lungs. : )

[Jennie Mac]

oh and by the way youre not naive just need to really try and think outside of your little box.

[amayalindsey]

I dont think anyone is trying to be mean by saying you shouldnt be smoking pot..... I think it is just that people are a little taken back at the fact that you are trying to be healthy and eat right but then you would do an illegal drug. I am not gonna sit here and say you are a horrible person for smoking pot I mean sheesh I smoked when I was younger (not tons but still) but as I got older and had a kid I realized I didnt want that kind of life. I didnt want to be the mom that got pulled over with my kid in the car and got arrested for being high or having it on me... That was just my call on changing my life...... no there is no scientific proof that pot is unhealthy..... but when you start taking phen and cut out all the crap you eat in your diet like soda and sweets and all that stuff its not because it is going to kill you it is because you want to have that healthy attiude....having it be an issue with phen would depend on how your body acts to both drugs. If you normally get the munchies and it is a pattern of behavior to smoke then snack it would probably not have good results. Just be smart about it if you insist on smoking..... You want to get the best possible results just like the rest of us so instead of smoking pot and being stoned pick up another habit that will benefit your weightloss..... like taking a walk at night :)

[rocknrobin]

I'm not thinking inside the box. and I did not say anything that was factualy incorrect. once they make pot legal then you have a right to argue the point that I am wrong. I have no addictions to food I am 132 lbs......I have additional health problems that warented me starting phen. So now you are thinking inside the box and generalizing what everybodys isues are. shame on you. pot is illegal. you do it several times a day, you are not willing to stop and you are defensive. you are addicted. pot is a gateway drug. what will you do next as you stated it's effectivness is limmited at this point. coke, crack ??????? Just prove to me that I am wrong and I will appologize, Can't can you! I am not judging you.... I am Judging your behavior! don't like it take a second or third look at yourself!

[Jennie Mac]

Thank you for your input. i do actually excersise. im not just some stoner you see in movies who never moves off the couch or anything like that. like i said before, pot is really like my coffee. it gives me energy, enables me to focus better on things so i dont walk around for 10 hours trying to do a 30min task. it suppresses my appetite. its actually a very wonderful drug in my opinion

[Jennie Mac]

I'm not thinking inside the box. and I did not say anything that was factualy incorrect. once they make pot legal then you have a right to argue the point that I am wrong. I have no addictions to food I am 132 lbs......I have additional health problems that warented me starting phen. So now you are thinking inside the box and generalizing what everybodys isues are. shame on you. pot is illegal. you do it several times a day, you are not willing to stop and you are defensive. you are addicted. pot is a gateway drug. what will you do next as you stated it's effectivness is limmited at this point. coke, crack ??????? Just prove to me that I am wrong and I will appologize, Can't can you! I am not judging you.... I am Judging your behavior! don't like it take a second or third look at yourself!


Let me start off by saying i dont need pot to be legal for me to have a right to argue the point that you are wrong. its called an opinion. mine is with the right usage, pot is a very wonderful drug. magnificent actually. with the wrong usage it is a gateway drug. as you stated in your lovely VERY defensive comment. (which by the way im not and have not been defensive just having a simple conversation) i have done so many other drugs in life and none of that derrived from me smoking pot. in fact my first drug was acid. i didnt try pot until a year later. and let me correct you some more since you cant seem to copy actual words used, instead you like to twist them to add a dramatic touch to your statement. i do not smoke pot SEVERAL times a day. i smoke pot normally always once but sometimes will take another 2-3 hits right before bed to help with sleep. that would be defined as a COUPLE times a day i smoke. Secondly, i never said YOU had an addiction to food, i said many people here which is not a stereotype, it is the truth. phen is a drug that suppresses your appetite so while you DIET and EXCERSISE youre not feeling like youre starving and need a little debbie 24/7. phen is a drug to help with food addictions as well. works good, i like the drug. Thirdly, you say i am not willing to smoke pot when ive said before that i do randomly just quit at times. like maybe go a year without smoking all the sudden. and keep in mind, the last time i did that i still had pot. not like i ran out and didnt buy anymore, just didnt pick it up and smoke it. and finally, i am excited to hear that youll apologize since i have proven you wrong and incapable of reading and quoting people or even fully understanding what people are saying. i have never done crack, coke, meth, heroin, anything like that. i have done acid, pot, opium, peyote, and thats it. acid is the only non-natural drug i have done. and again, i tried this and did it for a long time before i ever tried pot. i dont do pills and cant stand people who do, in fact i dont even like taking the phen because its a pill! lol but i do take it : ) i dont like ecstacy like so many people around me did. i dont like narcotics. never ever in my life will. so before you go spouting off at the mouth about how outrageous and horrible me smoking pot is, take a step back and look...dont judge so quickly. i am not a typical "pothead" at all! and i am definately not as horrible as you have imagined. so while i take that second and third look in the mirror that you requested, why dont you take a few hours to really think about you and your behavior.

[rocknrobin]

now lets calm down....Lets not fight....in the end we all want the same thing....we just take different paths to get to the same end result.


I'm not trying to insult you......but .......


Anyway...I wish you the best in all you do!

No hard feelings??????;)

[bratface]

Hey Jennie,

I totally agree with you that pot is medicinal. You mentioned the pot helping you focus and get things done. Personally, for me that is what phen used to do (I can't take it anymore... long story) and I loved it. I got so much more done!

Based on both pot and phen being medicinal, it makes sense to me that there could be interactions. Also, I believe different strains provide different medicinal benefits so I'm wondering if different strains would react differently with phen?

I think you brought up a completely interesting subject.... I don't know the answer. but would love to hear what you find out.

BTW, I KNEW there would be people jumping all over you all judgemental... it ****s but it figures.

Good luck!

[saversmurf]

i dont have much input on this subject but i wanted to say something. i smoked for the first time at 20yrs old. it was a great experience. i didnt smoke for several years after that. but when i did again it was a great experience, the focus i had was unbelievable. a few years ago i was diagnosed as bi polar and researched a lot online about it. apparently pot actually helps many bi polar people be cause of the way it affects the brain. i have only smoked once in the last 3 years and it was still a good experience. im not a pot head at all and never will be. thats just not me but i dont think that we should be so quick to judge others for the decisions they make. to each is own.

[rocknrobin]

i am not judging here. it just makes no sense to go to the extreme of taking a diet pill to help lose weight and get healthy to use "drugs" . Why not just clean your system out while taking phen and once you reach your goal then partake in what you desire.

[amayalindsey]

I want to apologize if anything I said was out of line..... After I thought about this for a little bit I remembered something. Chron's disease runs in my family.... My sister has it along with my daughter who is 4 1/2 :( If you dont know what it is basically it affects all of your GI tract. Well my sister has been dealing with this for 10+ years while my daughter was just recently diagnosed with it. My sister has gone from skinny to fat depending on how bad things are.... depending on the medications she is on... and how much steroids they are pushing on her. She goes thru times that she doesnt eat for days because of the pains it will cause in her tummy to eat. She will have no engery and be in so much pain... She had a very rough pregnancy and then hard time dealing with a baby and not being healthy. She is probably one of the most caring giving people I have ever known.... the all around "good girl".... she is an amazing mother, wife, and of course sister :) Well the point of why I am saying all of this is because the ONLY thing and I mean ONLY thing that can calm her down and get her to be able to eat when her Chron's is at its worst is smoking pot. By no means is she a "pothead" she never even smoked or did and drugs or drinking as a teen. It was something she had read online when she was on a forum for chron's so she tried it. She even told her doctor and he didnt have anything negative to say. She asked the same ? if it would mess with any other meds she was taking for her chron's and he said not at all. That being said................ I know you are not using it for a "medical" reason....... but...... its obviously used for many different reasons and as long as it is not abused I dont see it being a problem.

Sorry if I rambled lol :)

[luckyprincessmelody]

Hi, I stumbled onto this while checking if Advil and Phen is bad, lol. I just wanted to share with the OP, that the reason your 'high' from pot is lessened when you take the phen is that pot works on your neurotransmitters, as well. So the two basically work in the same way to create a feeling of being satisfied, with pot offering more of a relaxed euphoria. So for someone that gets the opposite effect with pot (being focused, having energy) that mimics more the effects of phen, well - it's like the two drugs are working on the same system so probably some of both of the effects are canceled out a little. I'd save my money on the good stuff for now!;)
Sorry, but I'm a Biology major and wanted to share some of my many hours of studying too much....:p

[JustaRandomGirl]

I personally think that pot should be legal.....

And to each his own I say. I wouldn't think smoking pot and taking phen would really be any worse than smoking cigarettes or drinking alcohol while taking phen.

I used to smoke pot when I took phen many many years ago. Didn't seem to affect me any. I was also smoking cigarettes and drinking. I still lost weight, but I didn't have that much to lose at the time. I don't do any of those things now. Just started phen again and finally older and wiser and more thorough in this weight loss journey.

[andreanchris]

Thank you for posting this... Yes pot is illegal, yes it helps a lot of people medically, NO I don't believe it is addictive, and I don't believe smoking and taking phen will do anything really. I smoke occassionally when my mind won't turn off. I have anxiety and my brain goes faster than my mouth most times. So for me it helps slow the brain down to get the thoughts verbalized as well as helps me sleep when needed. I also suffer from PPD and seasonal depression and when things get bad I do smoke to even out the moods. My dad has had Crohn s for 40 years and smoking is the only way he gets nutriants into his system as most times he is in too much pain to eat, pot gives him the munchies so he eats good food and gets the nutriants.




I want to apologize if anything I said was out of line..... After I thought about this for a little bit I remembered something. Chron's disease runs in my family.... My sister has it along with my daughter who is 4 1/2 :( If you dont know what it is basically it affects all of your GI tract. Well my sister has been dealing with this for 10+ years while my daughter was just recently diagnosed with it. My sister has gone from skinny to fat depending on how bad things are.... depending on the medications she is on... and how much steroids they are pushing on her. She goes thru times that she doesnt eat for days because of the pains it will cause in her tummy to eat. She will have no engery and be in so much pain... She had a very rough pregnancy and then hard time dealing with a baby and not being healthy. She is probably one of the most caring giving people I have ever known.... the all around "good girl".... she is an amazing mother, wife, and of course sister :) Well the point of why I am saying all of this is because the ONLY thing and I mean ONLY thing that can calm her down and get her to be able to eat when her Chron's is at its worst is smoking pot. By no means is she a "pothead" she never even smoked or did and drugs or drinking as a teen. It was something she had read online when she was on a forum for chron's so she tried it. She even told her doctor and he didnt have anything negative to say. She asked the same ? if it would mess with any other meds she was taking for her chron's and he said not at all. That being said................ I know you are not using it for a "medical" reason....... but...... its obviously used for many different reasons and as long as it is not abused I dont see it being a problem.

Sorry if I rambled lol :)

[EEB310]

If you don't need it medically, then you have to expect the judgements..dont act surprised..and thats bc this is such a controversial issue...it just sounds bad to people bc it is an illegal drug..which then makes you seem like a druggie..if you dont want to be judged (bc there will always be someone who will judge you) then dont bring up or comment on controversial topics like this..its common sense