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Walnuts
April 13th, 2009, 07:30 PM
Hello,

I wrote last week, but I can't seem to find what I wrote and I don't think anyone replied back to it so im going to write one more time.

I started phendimetrazine 105mg on thursday.
so this is what has been happening...

i went to this doctor who prescribes diet pills to anyone who wants them. he doesnt give tests or anything to see if i can handle the pills or if they are right for me. he just asked a couple questions. i know these pills are intended for obsese people, which i am not. so i know they arent good for me, but i wanted to try them anyway. the doctor asked me if i snacked. i said yeah sure i do. so he said he was giving me another pill to take with the diet pills which turned out to be these anti-depressiants (i am not sure why)...

so the first day i took the phendimetrazine, but i didnt take the anti-depressiant bcuz the pharmacy had to order those and they would be ready the next day. i felt a little weird and different, but I was okay. I thought I might have trouble falling asleep that night, but I didnt. I didnt feel much of a difference in my appetite. So far so good.

Day 2 I took both the diet and anti-depressiants in the morning. I def. noticed I felt a little out of it that day. I wasn't hungry at all! I made myself eat 2 bananas during the day just bcuz I felt like if i didnt eat anything I was going to faint or something. At night I still wasn't hungry, but I went out to eat with my friend and I ended up eating a good amount of my dinner. I was with my friend most of the day and all night and he said I seemed a little different. Not a big difference, but he noticed it. This day I talked to my friend who went to the same doctor as me for these pills and she said that the doctor prescribed her the anti-depressiants as well but she thought it was weird that he did that and she never took them. She lost weight with just the phendimetrazine so I was thinking about not taking the anti-depressiants anymore.

Day 3 I felt better. I decided to continue taking both pills this day. I don't remember being that much out of it. I was maybe a little paranoid during the day, but I felt better then the day before. I even ended up taking a nap that day. I thought these pills were supposed to make me energetic and kind of hyper and I read that even sometimes people have trouble sleeping on them. Not me I was tired, I passed out.

Day 4 I decided to stop taking the anti-depressiants. This day I didn't feel too bad. I was actually hungry at night time and found myself almost eating some junk food.

Day 5 (today) was probably the worst day. I felt really out of it all day and still now (6:15pm) Its hard to explain how I feel. I almost feel a little messed up or high or drunk. I can still function properly and everything, but I almost feel like I can't. I drove a couple times today and I think I did fine. In the morning I was a little scared to drive though. I was driving somewhere with my mom and I kind of wanted to tell her to drive, but I am hiding these pills from her so I decided not to say anything bcuz she would ask me why. I drove fine. I feel like I don't want to go out in public. I feel like people might think im messed up or something. But like I said I seem to be doing everything fine. My parents and no one has said anything to me about acting different or if I was okay. I also feel like I am too weak to work out. I want to work out bcuz I think that you have to diet and work out on the pills too. But im not going to work out today bcuz of how I feel. I feel like if I were to run that I might faint. A part of me thinks that I might be feeling this way bcuz Im not eating too much. Im not that hungry though and I usually have to just force myself to eat something and I dont want to eat junk food. The doctor told me not to eat bread, but I don't think I will really follow this. I eat whole wheat bread anyway. I haven't noticed really any weight loss. I know its been only 5 days, but a lot of messages I read on here people wrote how they lost 5lbs in 2 days or something about loosing weight already.

If anyone has taken these diet pills or knows anything about them please write me back. I want to know if this is normal, or if maybe I need to eat more, or if I should stop taking these pills. I don't want to stop, but if i dont get any information from anyone and I continue feeling this way im going to have to stop. I don't feel like myself and I really just dont like how I feel. I don't know what to do. Please write back. Last time I wrote something I couldn't find it and I wasnt sure if anyone wrote back so maybe if you want to write me can you send it to my email: Cadela7****.com
Thanks for reading and for any help or tips is appreciated!!

paschall2007
April 13th, 2009, 08:44 PM
These are side effects of the meds. But you are probably feeling this way because you are not supposed to be on them....if you want to lose weight and aren't obese why don't you just work out, eat right, and take vitamins. So many people would be so happy to NOT have to take pills to lose weight. We are losing 5 pounds a week because we need to....mainly for health reasons. It is usually water weight we lose in the beginning anyways. If I were you I'd come off the meds and just try it on your own. Then go to your doctor if you aren't able to lose weight. It didn't go on in one night it isn't going to come off in one night. The doctor you went to obviously is not in it to help you if he gave you the meds if you don't need them. This probably isn't what you wanted to hear....but here it is.

Walnuts
April 13th, 2009, 09:41 PM
thanks for your reply.

Well, I have been trying to loose weight. I bought a treadmill about 3 years ago! I haven't lost 1lb. I seem to always be gaining weight! Ive switched to whole wheat bread a really long time ago. I try to work out. Sometimes ill work out 2-4 times a week, but sometimes i wont work out at all or ill work out once or twice. I just dont have the motivation. I dont understand why. Im so unhappy being overweight, I dont know how im not like okay im going to work out all the time. I have two jobs and im always tired so thats usually why i dont work out. i never have any energy. I also have a problem eating too much. Im always hungry and i can eat a lot. sometimes ill eat healthy, but sometimes i wont. and sometimes ill eat good, but sometimes ill just binge eat. i cant control this and i cant seem to loose weight and no matter what i do i just keep gaining weight. i seem to gain like 10lb every year. i dont even drink soda that often. i drink alcohol probably once a week. so you see, this is why i have resulted to diet pills. i really really DONT want to take them, trust me, i hate pills and drugs...but i dont know what else to do....i cant control my hunger. i still havent decided what im going to do about these diet pills, if im going to continue or stop tomorrow. its so frustrating, they worked for my friend and she said she was fine (and she wasnt obese either) but they arent making me feel too great. how do people take these and do their daily activites like go to work and stuff????

paschall2007
April 13th, 2009, 10:05 PM
They give me energy. I'm usually up until 4am and then I wake up 7-8 am. And I'm not tired during the day. I know how it is with your eating and all....how do you think I got up to 226lbs? I have found that keeping a journal works really well.
One - for your emotions it will help with the binge eating. I am an emotional eater....happy, sad, angry, whatever emotion I eat for it. I have found that if I grab a glass of water and write down what I'm feeling I don't eat. It gives me time to control my emotions and by the time I'm done writing down I don't have such an intense want to eat. You could try that for the binging. I generally just come on here and vent in a post or I write a letter and throw it away. Anything to get that emotion gone. Another journal for everything you eat. I have a notebook that I write down everything I eat and drink. No matter what it is. I write the time, what it was, and the amount I ate. No matter how much I have to eat. Having to look at what you are eating, especially when it is too much, will make you want to cut back. Even if it is unhealthy. It's hard believe me. I also write down anything that causes me to sweat. The time I started and the time I stopped. Whether it's working out, working in the yard. Anything. This is the part that motivates me. Because I always want to do more than the last time I did it.
I understand about not liking pills or drugs. But the last time I went to the doc, she said I could do one of three things: take Phen, have surgery, or die young. I didn't want any of them, but, obviously, I decided to try the Phen first. But if the meds are making you feel bad, then stop taking them. How much water do you drink? The recommended amount of water you should drink is half your weight in ounces. It sounds like a lot, and it is, but once you get the hang of it, it isn't that bad.
I know this is long. I wish someone had told me some of this stuff when I was trying to lose weight. But of course I learned after I gained all this weight. Now I have 100+lbs to lose.
I hpe I didn't come off as rude in the last post I sent. I didn't mean to. If you ever want to talk without everyone being able to read it just send me a Private message. You will always find support and encouragement on here. That's what I love about this site. The people here know and understand what you are going through.

Walnuts
April 15th, 2009, 10:14 AM
I stopped taking the diet pills. I really didnt like how I felt that day (monday) and I didn't want to feel that way yesterday bcuz I had a lot to do at work and today I have to work 2 jobs. I didn't feel like I would be able to if I were on those crazy diet pills!!!! I still felt a little bit weird yesterday, but much much better and today maybe the same.

I think that im going to have a talk with my mom about using these diet pills. If she says its okay then I might go back on them. I think ill be more comfortable if she knows and im not trying to hide being out of it or taking them from her. BUT im pretty sure she will tell me no. She is very anti anything unhealthy. I feel like I will never loose weight now. Everything I try does not work at all for me.

I can't believe the pills made you stay up to 4am. That is a little insane. Im glad they didnt do that to me. Like I said I took naps on them and I pretty much went to bed the same time I did before I took them. I noticed that I was waking up like an hour or 2 earlier then I usually wake up though.

I love water. I drink a lot of it. Im usually always thirsty! I don't drink much of anything else. I do drink alcohol, but not all the time and when I do I'll try to order a rum and diet coke... I don't understand how some people I know all they drink is soda or anything but water bcuz they hate water and eat whatever they want and drink alcohol all the time and never work out and seem to stay at 100lbs. WTF not fair. I actually lied, im drinking an energy drink now haha. Im addicted to these. I stopped drinking them when I was on the phen bcuz I didnt think that would be good. These give me a lot more energy then the pills did. They are only 20 calories.

You didn't come off as rude at all. I don't know how to send private messages :( I just started this thing and at first I couldnt even find the posts I left.

I want to loose weight!!! how did I get this big :( I used to be skinny in high school and my whole life and then I just started gaining 10lb every year it seems. Don't know what to do anymore.

Rhonda6105
April 21st, 2009, 12:10 PM
Who is the doctor? Is he in florida? Answer to your question. You have to go into a de/cet of 3500 calories to lose weight. However if you are not exercising(?) your metabolism is slowing.(takes longer) Eat healthy.Eat bread. A diet is for life. I've been on one for 20 years and need to drop a few again. Anyway, remember,3500 (extra) to gain a pound,3500 (under) to lose a pound. Bless you, Rhonda. P.S. be patient a little longer.

Walnuts
April 22nd, 2009, 10:12 AM
huh 3,500 calories less to loose weight?? i dont think i even eat that many calories in one day so that would mean not eating anything. i think i misunderstood lol. yes, the doctor is in west palm beach, florida and his name is dr.gard. i stopped taking the phendramatizine about a week and a half ago. today i have an appointment to get these other diet pills. these are herbal and healthy so i dont think they will make me feel like ****! my mom says they work and she knows people who said it works so i guess we will see. if worse comes to worse then i will go back on the phend if everything else fails! i hope i dont have to.

Rhonda6105
April 22nd, 2009, 11:59 AM
Hi Walnuts, sorry I sent you an email BEFORE I checked the post.(I'm new at all of this). The 3500 calories are 'when ever' calories. If you eat 3500 calorie more than your body burns, you gain. I am very small boned and I SHOULD(ha.) eat about 1700 cal a day. If I eat 1800 and don't burn that 100 extra calories, I will gain 1 pound in 35days. See what I'm saying? It is so bummerie! By the way, MOST exxxxcellant! Stay the course.