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Adina
June 1st, 2005, 06:00 PM
I have been taking 5-HTP and there were something that I just didn't know about it. Thought y'all might find this interesting reading.


5-HTP info: click here or read below. (http://www.wholehealthmd.com/refshelf/substances_view/0,1525,747,00.html)

5-HTP



What Is It?
Health Benefits
Forms
Dosage Information
Guidelines for Use
General Interaction
Possible Side Effects
Cautions


What Is It?

The nutrient 5-HTP (the common name for the compound 5-hydroxytryptophan) is a derivative of the amino acid tryptophan. A mood-enhancing chemical, 5-HTP has attracted a good deal of attention lately because of its ability to increase pain tolerance, induce sleep, and affect how hunger is perceived. Unlike many other supplements (and drugs) that have molecules too large to pass from the bloodstream into the brain, molecules of 5-HTP are small enough to do so. Once in the brain, they're converted into an important nervous system chemical, or neurotransmitter, called serotonin.

The body produces its own supply of 5-HTP from tryptophan, an amino acid found in high-protein foods such as chicken, fish, beef, and dairy products. Any healthy diet should include tryptophan-rich sources such as these. In addition, 5-HTP is available as a supplement; this form of the compound is extracted from the seeds of the African plant, Griffonia simplicifolia.

Concerns about 5-HTP's safety and effectiveness have been raised because of its close chemical association to L-tryptophan, a supplement once embroiled in controversy and now banned from the U.S. market. In the late 1980s, the use of L-tryptophan was linked to thousands of cases of illness and more than 30 deaths. Investigators determined that impurities in the manufacturing of L-tryptophan were the cause of these problems, not the tryptophan itself. In 1994, 5-HTP was introduced in the U.S.; unlike L-tryptophan the newer compound isn't produced with the help of bacteria. Therefore 5-HTP is thought to pose significantly less risk of contamination than L-tryptophan. Still, some experts continue to be concerned about impurities, and suggest avoiding high doses (700 to 900 mg a day) of 5-HTP.

Europeans have been taking 5-HTP for decades to treat insomnia and depression.

Health Benefits

Promising research indicates that 5-HTP may have a beneficial effect on a broad scope of complaints.

Specifically, 5-HTP may help to:

# Elevate mood in cases of depression, anxiety, and panic attacks. 5-HTP appears to increase the brain's serotonin levels, positively influencing such disorders as depression that have been linked to low levels of this brain neurotransmitter. A number of small European studies offer examples of people with depression who found little relief from traditional antidepressant drugs yet obtained good results with 5-HTP.

# Treat insomnia. Several elements of a good night's sleep appear to be influenced by 5-HTP. In addition to reducing the amount of time it takes to nod off, this compound actually may enhance the quality of sleep itself, increasing both the duration of dream states (REM sleep) and of deep slumber. In studies, most people who tried 5-HTP also reported feeling more rested upon awakening.

# Promote weight loss. Some studies indicate that 5-HTP may curb the appetite when taken before meals. In a recent study of dieting women, those given 5-HTP reported feeling fuller than those who were given a placebo. In the end, participants in the 5-HTP group consumed fewer calories overall, and lost more weight than those in the placebo group. Another study reported increased weight loss among obese patients who took 5-HTP versus those who were given a placebo; all, however, had been restricted to a daily diet of 1,200 calories. In addition, because 5-HTP reportedly reduces cravings for sweets and starches, it may also be of use in helping diabetics adhere to a healthy diet.

# Ease migraine pain. Migraine headaches have been linked to low serotonin levels. Studies are ongoing to determine if 5-HTP, which may boost the brain's serotonin levels, can help to reduce the intensity, frequency, and duration of this extremely painful type of headache.

# Increase tolerance to the pain of fibromyalgia. People who suffer from fibromyalgia, a chronic condition that commonly causes muscle pain and disabling fatigue, may have low serotonin levels. By increasing the level of these neurochemicals, 5-HTP may improve pain tolerance. In a recent Italian study, the 200 fibromylagia sufferers who added 5-HTP to a regimen of conventional antidepressants experienced less pain than those who took the drugs or 5-HTP alone.

Note: 5-HTP has also been found to be useful for a number of other disorders. For information on these additional ailments, see our Dosage Recommendations Chart for 5-HTP.

Forms

* tablet
* capsule

Dosage Information

# For depression, anxiety, and panic attacks: Take 50 to 100 mg three times a day.

# For insomnia: Take 100 mg 30 minutes before going to bed.

# For weight control: Take 100 mg three times a day, 20 to 30 minutes before meals. After two weeks, increase the dose to 200 mg (three times a day).

# For migraine prevention: Work gradually up to a dosage that controls migraine pain, starting with 50 mg three times a day but ultimately exceeding no more than 100 mg three times a day. It may take several months to get the full benefit of 5-HTP's migraine-preventive effects.

# For fibromyalgia: Take l00 mg three times a day. If drowsiness occurs, reduce the dose to 50 mg three times a day

Be sure to check out our Dosage Recommendations Chart for 5-HTP, which lists therapeutic dosages for specific ailments at a glance.

Guidelines for Use

# In general, to minimize the risk for side effects, begin with a low dose of 5-HTP (50 mg once a day). Continue for one week and then increase the amount by 50 mg increments each week, up to the dose recommended for your condition.

# Take 5-HTP on an empty stomach for quickest absorption.

# Don't take 5-HTP for more than three consecutive months without consulting your doctor.

# The time it takes for an improvement in depression, anxiety, and panic attacks to develop varies among individuals. In general, however, it may take two to four weeks for a clinical response to occur.

# If you're already taking a conventional antidepressant, such as Prozac, Wellbutrin, or Effexor, check with your doctor before starting on 5-HTP.

# Read ingredient labels carefully; some 5-HTP supplements contain unnecessary herbs or nutrients.

General Interaction

# The combination of 5-HTP with conventional antidepressants, such as Prozac, Wellbutrin, or Effexor, may cause such unwanted reactions as anxiety, confusion, increased heart rate, excessive perspiration, and diarrhea.

# Don't try 5-HTP within four weeks of using an MAO inhibitor.

# Consult your doctor before combining 5-HTP with the herb St. John's wort.

# Avoid taking 5-HTP with sedating antihistamines; the combination can lead to drowsiness.

# Don't take 5-HTP with over-the-counter cold remedies or any medications containing ephedrine or pseudoephedrine, because anxiety, confusion, or other serious side effects may develop.

# Muscle relaxants could cause excessive drowsiness when combined with 5-HTP.

# Drowsiness may develop if 5-HTP is taken with a narcotic pain reliever such as codeine or morphine.

# Consult your doctor before trying 5-HTP if you take levodopa for Parkinson's disease, because anxiety, confusion, or other adverse reactions may occur when the two substances are combined.

# Psychiatric medications such as buspirone (to combat anxiety) and lithium (to prevent mania) may combine with 5-HTP in such a way that anxiety, confusion, or other serious side effects develop.

For information on interactions with specific generic drugs, see our WholeHealthMD Drug/Nutrient Interactions Chart.

Possible Side Effects

# Side effects are typically mild but may include nausea, constipation, gas, drowsiness, or a decreased sex drive.

# Nausea, should it occur, commonly disappears after a few days.

Cautions

# Many experts consider 5-HTP supplements very safe and effective; adverse reactions to the supplement in a handful of users several years ago were traced to contaminants in the manufacturing process that appear to have been resolved.

# Reduce the dose if drowsiness occurs. Also, because of this risk for drowsiness, avoid driving or performing any other potentially dangerous task until you've determined how the supplement (at various dosages) affects you.

# Stop taking 5-HTP and call your doctor if you develop a bad reaction to it.
Ailments

Dosage
ADHD
50 mg in the morning and 100 mg at bedtime, if depression is also present.
Anxiety and Panic
50-100 mg 3 times a day
Chronic Pain
200-400 mg a day, in 2 or 3 divided doses
Depression
50-100 mg 3 times a day; can be taken with food
Fibromyalgia
50 mg 2 or 3 times a day; if no change after three weeks, increase to 100 mg 2 or 3 times a day. If you initially experience mild drowsiness, take 5-HTP at bedtime until you build up tolerance, then add the daytime dose.
Insomnia
100-300 mg 30 minutes before bed. (Start with lower dose; increase as needed.)
Migraine
50-100 mg 3 times a day
Tobacco Dependence
50-100 mg 3 times a day.
Weight Loss
100 mg 3 times a day; take on an empty stomach for better absorption

DancingStarr
June 1st, 2005, 06:16 PM
Thanks for the info. ;) My mom and I have been thinking about trying this. Do you like it? Can you tell anything from taking it?

Adina
June 2nd, 2005, 06:24 AM
You know I can't really tell a difference. I am actually thinking about phasing it out. But I might not be taking enough of the supplement.

youcandoit
June 2nd, 2005, 08:57 AM
i started taking it about 2weeks ago. i was taking the 37.5, but they were the able brand and before i was taking the 5-HTP, i was not feeling like the phen was working, so i got that, thinking it would boost up my metab. i have been off phen for like a week now, but i have still been taking the HTP. i notice that the feeling i got with the phen and this...i still get. it decreases my appetite, it relaxes me, but most of all, i can somewhat feel the serotinin somewhat. its not a bad feeling, but just sort of weird...ya know. i dont think i need to decrease the dose, cause i take 2 in the morning, 2 for lunch, then maybe 2 before bed. what i felt with the phen, i feel it with this alone. i hope im not taking too much.

aaron&shelby'smom
June 2nd, 2005, 10:19 AM
Where do you get the 5htp? Can you buy it at a store, or do you have to order it? Thanks for any info.


Debbie

FL Fat-So
June 2nd, 2005, 10:26 AM
drug store, gnc - can be hard to find
But CVS carries it and GNC for sure
:)

Jenasis
June 2nd, 2005, 10:43 AM
Walmart, Walgreens, ******... I bought mine at ****** for like 12 bucks.
It really wasn't hard to find at all, just walk over to the vitamin and herbal supplement section. The same type that I bought was 10 dollars more at GNC. I know you guys seem to adore GNC, but they are usually just highly overpriced.

MASISARI
June 2nd, 2005, 10:44 AM
Even though I think 5-HTP is a great supliment I still think it's questionable. As you may recall a good while back I had taken it for about 4 days ended up in the hospital. Now this doesn't mean that it's going to happen to everyone, but it did happen to me and I just want people to know. I think my body just took it a different way. From the first day I took it I had bad adverse effects to it.

Good luck
Christine

CHRISTINE99
June 2nd, 2005, 10:47 AM
and it is ok to take with the phen...no effects??

I am actually taking a break from phen currently...so I will try it.

I can never fall asleep at night...always been that way...even before the phen...


Thanx for posting!

:) Christine :)

sailorswife
June 2nd, 2005, 02:00 PM
I first heard about 5-htp here, and decided to try it out...just because I need help falling asleep at night. The phen doesn't allow me to relax at night (even tho I take my phen about 15 hours before I plan to sleep!). I first tried taking benadryl, but it leaves me feeling hung-over. I found a bottle of 45(count) 50mg capsules of 5-htp for $7.99 at wal**** (it's in a small dark purple box, in the vitamin aisle). I take one capsule at bedtime, and I can tell a huge difference. it seems to calm down my thought process, and I drift right to sleep. I wake feeling rested, not hung-over. I've been taking it for a month now, and haven't had any negative side effects.