Phentermine and Xenical...Phencal?

[Rhonda]

Is anyone trying phentermine and Xenical? I have both, and am wondering, since neither are contridindicated towards each other, if that is a faster weight-loss combination.

[vita]

I started out taking both. But to me the xenical is like taking a laxative and I think it leads to bulimic behavior. If your diet is low fat there's no effect, but if you take it with too much fatty foods you get diarrhea. So it either scares you to not eat fats or you use it to purge.

[JuliaG1]

Well, I think when you get to the point that Phen is starting to wear off, then it might make sense to do the combo. I've been doing a Meridia/Xenical combo the last couple of weeks, since the Meridia isn't working as well. I think it makes sense to take the Xenical when you have eaten a meal that has a significant amount of fat. I've found that I don't really do that all that often. I guess, I really don't worry about bulimia in that sense because you still get 66% of the fat that you are taking in and all of the other nutrients. Actually, Most people don't lose all that much by taking Xenical. If you think about it it only subtracts about 150-200 calories from your daily intake depending on how much fat you eat. Also remember to take a vitamin supplement if you go with Xenical.

[Whowhon]

I have taken phentermine and Xenical since Dec. I do have to admit that I don't take the Xenical faithfully like a should. I always forget to take all three pills a day. I normally don't eat a high fat breakfast so I don't take it then. I have noticed that when I take the Xenical I do lose more weight. Also, I think that with the Xenical you watch what you eat so that you don't have the nasty side effects when you eat high fat foods. Plus, I think of it as a consequence thing. If you eat bad with the xenical, there are side effects. Without the Xenical if you eat bad, you gain weight. So, either way you look at it If you eat bad something will happen.

Also, people who are on phentermine complain of being constipated. I have never had that problem. I go regularly and it helps. I use to have to take fibercon everyday. Now I don't.

As far as the bulimia, I haven't ever had that problem in my life. If I had, I would not have been 100 pounds over weight. If anything, I am considered to have the Night-eating syndrome which is when someone consumes most of there calories in the evening. They say that 37 percent of Americans who are more than 100 pounds overweight eat this way. I have been watching my evening eating alot. I do what I can.

Oh well, I am rambling. Hope this helps you.

[Rhonda]

I used to abuse laxatives, when I was in high school. I also knew where every bathroom was and whether they were single stalls, or multiple, in every restuarant. I was under twenty years old, then, and I was quite skinny, and stayed that way until I was 28, and had my son. I became a nurse after that, cause it was something I could do for the rest of my life. It's weird, now, I'm 40 years old, and now, even in the nursing home I work at, I see alot of female residents in their 50's, are making themselves throw-up. Man, I grew out of that a long time ago, and never even considered it when I found out about Xenical. Xenical is a good meidication. It's not abusing laxatives, it's cutting the fat.
--Rhonda